Concept of Brahman in Hinduism

[sayak83]

To strict materialism universe is deterministic. Chaos theory states randomness is only apparent.

"Chaos theory is a branch of mathematics focusing on the study of chaos—states of dynamical systems whose apparently-random states of disorder and irregularities are often governed by deterministic laws that are highly sensitive to initial conditions." (Wiki)

Quantum Mechanics is truly indeterministic though...

 

[PearlSeeker]

Quantum Mechanics is truly indeterministic though...

Only on quantum level.

 

[paarsurrey]

Basis was both rational reflection and meditative experience. The concept was first clearly articulated by sage Jagyavalka in the Brihad-Aranyaka upanisad which historians date to roughly 800 - 900 BCE.

Does one mean that Brahman is the brain-child of sage Jagyavalka,please?

Regards

 

[sayak83]

Does one mean that Brahman is the brain-child of sage Jagyavalka,please?

Regards

We find the earliest clearest discussion of Brahman in his work. But the writings show that many already were reflecting and discussing about Brahman at that time. So, no, he did not think of It the first.

 

[sayak83]

Only on quantum level.

No.. the indeterminism extends to the macroscopic scales as well. Example, small scale fluctuations result in condensation of water vapour into water droplets in an indeterminate fashion in a volume of air.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Wish to start a debate/discussion regarding the concept of the ultimate reality (Brahman) that is the core of Hindu philosophy. Many ppl (mostly my Indian friends) consider it too difficult to understand to think about... and practice simple theism mostly.

So I want to get your opinion about Brahman. Is it hard to understand, fake mumbo jumbo, profound realization or just "meh"?

I will start with a verse in the Upanisads that I find quite striking. What do you make of it?

Upanisadic Verses

By whom impelled, by whom compelled, does the mind soar forth?

By whom enjoined does the breath, march on as the first?

By whom is this speech impelled, with which people speak?

And who is the god that joins the sight and hearing?


That which is the hearing behind hearing,
the thinking behind thinking,
the speech behind speech,
the sight behind sight—
It is also the breathing behind breathing


Which one cannot grasp with one's mind,
by which, they say,
the mind itself is grasped
Learn that that alone is brahman,
and not what they here venerate.

(Kena Upanisad)

I am a Jew,not a Hindu, but I find the concept of Brahma not difficult at all. Indeed I find it to be a redeeming virtue in the ongoing evolution of Hinduism. As time has gone on, our religions have moved closer together, and this is a good thing.

May the ultimate Source of all that is be with you.