Confusing

[blü 2]

Does anybody else find reality confusing with all the religious, atheistic, scientific, etc, claims.....all wanting agreement from the student?

Well, the sex can be confusing.

But it makes the physics look pretty straightforward.

By the way, have you ever noticed how much more moral Marvel Comics is than religion?

 

[sealchan]

Does anybody else find reality confusing with all the religious, atheistic, scientific, etc, claims.....all wanting agreement from the student?

In this confusion lies our freedom and our selves...could you or I exist without trurh having such a "loose fit"?

 

[sealchan]

Well, the sex can be confusing.

But it makes the physics look pretty straightforward.

By the way, have you ever noticed how much more moral Marvel Comics is than religion?

Are you sure, those comic book writers have created so many bad guys wanting to destroy the world...

 

[Brickjectivity]

Does anybody else find reality confusing with all the religious, atheistic, scientific, etc, claims.....all wanting agreement from the student?

It has taken years to come to terms with reality. I should have focused upon living. The first and primary reality a person experiences comes through relationships. The happier you are the more reality satisfies, but ironically the less you are awake. Develop relationships and stay moral, aware and socially fit. Without that you may find nothing seems real.

 

[paarsurrey]

And still faith is not reality. I value honesty move than anything else

I didn't say that faith is reality.
I was saying that others have a right to have any faith that suits them, with or without reason, and such is the faith of Atheism people.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

It's one's right to believe there are pink unicorns on the moon, but that does not make it a reasonable belief. Not all beliefs are equal.

Does one that there are pink unicorns on the moon, please?
Regards

 

[ChristineM]

I didn't say that faith is reality.
I was saying that others have a right to have any faith that suits them, with or without reason, and such is the faith of Atheism people.
Regards

Of course they have.

However you made statements as real when in fact they are faith based

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said: ↑
G-d is Evident so needs no evidence,please.
Regards

"Evident" implies evidence, and, no, God is not evident. If He/She/It were evident the world would be in general agreement, as it is with scientific facts. We wouldn't have thousands of different religions. There would be no controversy.

" 'Evident' implies evidence".
Sorry, the above is incorrect.
The Evident does't need any evidence. If it needs it, then it is not real Evident.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Of course they have.

However you made statements as real when in fact they are faith based

I don't agree with that perception.
Regards

 

[ChristineM]

I don't agree with that perception.
Regards

Reality requires that said item actually exists, you cannot provide or cite evidence to validate your claim, the only thing you have is faith.

Faith is fine but it is not reality

 

[tayla]

Does anybody else find reality confusing with all the religious, atheistic, scientific, etc, claims.....all wanting agreement from the student?

Not at all. The only provable claims are those using the scientific method within its proper domain. All other revelations from revealed religions and revealed spiritual paths are not sources of truth.

 

[Valjean]

I didn't say that faith is reality.
I was saying that others have a right to have any faith that suits them, with or without reason, and such is the faith of Atheism people.Regards

Atheists have no faith. What do they have to have faith in? You can't have faith in a non belief.

paarsurrey said: ↑
G-d is Evident so needs no evidence,please.
Regards

God is not evident. What evidence do you have for Him?

" 'Evident' implies evidence".
Sorry, the above is incorrect.
The Evident does't need any evidence. If it needs it, then it is not real Evident.
Regards

How are you defining "evident?" The word itself implies evidence; evident is that which is supported by evidence.

 

[Valjean]

I'm always confused...so I can't really tell !

Well, you are confusing -- but i like your hat.

 

[blü 2]

Are you sure, those comic book writers have created so many bad guys wanting to destroy the world...

BUT (a) each of them is clearly labeled BAD, and (b) the folks clearly labeled GOOD always win, even if it takes some time.

 

[paarsurrey]

How are you defining "evident?" The word itself implies evidence; evident is that which is supported by evidence.

"In epistemology (theory of knowledge), a self-evident proposition is a proposition that is known to be true by understanding its meaning without proof,[citation needed] and/or by ordinary human reason"
Self-evidence - Wikipedia
Regards

 

[Valjean]

"In epistemology (theory of knowledge), a self-evident proposition is a proposition that is known to be true by understanding its meaning without proof,[citation needed] and/or by ordinary human reason"
Self-evidence - Wikipedia
Regards

This speaks to a category of proposition, not to the definition of "evident."
God is not self evident. The very fact that His nature, number and existence are disputed should make that clear.

 

[Al Ibn Al Amra]

It is only sections , that how is .

 

[Subduction Zone]

"In epistemology (theory of knowledge), a self-evident proposition is a proposition that is known to be true by understanding its meaning without proof,[citation needed] and/or by ordinary human reason"
Self-evidence - Wikipedia
Regards

Then you are wrong about God being self evident.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Does anybody else find reality confusing with all the religious, atheistic, scientific, etc, claims.....all wanting agreement from the student?

Honestly, no. Im pretty isolated so the only people Im around are christians. Not much variety unless you really seek it. Really, really seek it.

I havent heard of claims until I came on RF. I like the word challenging. I can see why a seeker would be challenged to confusion. I dont internalize other peoples beliefs to warrent spiritual confusion. Some views are interesting though.

 

[paarsurrey]

Then you are wrong about God being self evident.

How, please?
Regards