Confusion , What To Do ?

[Onkara]

*Jews are Holding the Key posts in IMF, WB, FR, and many influential organizations (If it is a propaganda against them that they control the economy) still they hold the Key Positions of most of the Economic Organizations, Judaism can be the True Religion as god are blessing Jews and raising them to the Top positions from where they can control (if not controlling)

On this sensitive topic, I watched a documentary which explained that in the past Christians could not lend money for an interest but Jews were able. This lead to the Jews becoming money lenders and potentially becoming richer than their Christian neighbours. This is also depicted in Shakespare's Merchant of Venice and the character Shylock.

I also understand that Judaism is a race as well as a religion, and that one needs to marry or be born into it or under go a long conversion (which is a one way conversion and once converted one is bound by the covenant). E.g. Judaism 101: Who Is a Jew?

I don't know why but this has changed since (can anyone explain why Christians can now lend money?), but it could explain;

1) why there is an image that Jews are considered rich or money holders by race and

2) an explanation for anti-Semitism as Jews were disliked by some Christian communities in the past (I am guessing as I expect their are other historic reasons e.g. 13th Century Europe).

 

[Muffled]

>>>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World-religions.PNG


Christians are in majority.

Muslims and Hindus also have existence in significant number.

Jews controls the economy mostly and hold key posts.

Buddhists (China and Far East) are capturing the World wide Markets and Production.

Muslims Arabs have OIL.

Other Religions also have followers al over the world.

and then each religion has many sub divisions sects.

How a person can determine in his/her life, which one is the right path to follow, I think the life is not enough to solve this.

Confused , What to do ?

Being a Muslim I was already confused that which Sect is Right, I am a Sunni Muslim but there are many divisions in Sunnis, then there are Shias and they also have disputes on Imamat, then comes other sects of Islam.

But, When I see the broad Canvas, the disputes are on Prophets in Abrahamic Religions.

Then disputes on Gods.

Each Group has tons of Literatures, Logics, History to proof their faith is right and ultimate.

Is there any Single Point on which all can gather ???

OR Just we have to carry on with the Religion and Sect in which we born and do not care about what others do ???

Where the Quest of Truth Leads Us ??? Is there any End to It ? OR It ends with the Death ???

So Much Confused, cant express my Questions in Words, but if any one of you getting my feeling and can understand what I wanted to ask, Please share your opinions.

Regards,

MeeM Alif Suad

I believe most religions believe in a good God who defines what is good and requires people to do what is good.

I believe everyone has free choice but some choices come with a price tag.

I believe the quest for truth will eventually lead to the truth provided the person keeps an open mind.

I believe there is no end, only beginnings, or as some put it the eternal now.

I believe you might be seeking the right religion and there is a post about that.

 

[Onkara]

That would be up to you, not imposed by ancient tribal mythologies. See the wonderful freedom?

Hi
Freedom for what? From morals and laws?
The still exist so I can't see the true freedom?

 

[Onkara]

Why do you think there is a 'chosen people'?

Who told you that God chooses a certain group of people?

Hi
Paul in Romans 11.2 (New Testament) speaks of the Jews as the chosen people.

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

Hi
Paul in Romans 11.2 (New Testament) speaks of the Jews as the chosen people.

Thanks. But I was wondering who told the OP that God chooses certain people.

For myself, I have no belief that the Bible speaks for God any moreso than other books.

 

[islam means peace]

I think you are confused be casue you are trying either to judge or learn religion by seeing its followers.

If you really want to know what really religion say , study the scripture and not judge what the followers are doing, as followers might be doing worng

For example you said

Being a Muslim I was already confused that which Sect is Right, I am a Sunni Muslim but there are many divisions in Sunnis, then there are Shias and they also have disputes on Imamat, then comes other sects of Islam.

If you want to know which sect is right, just open Quran and you will find the answer.

The Glorious Qur’an says:

"And hold fast, All together, by the rope Which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves;" [Al-Qur’an 3:103]

The Glorious Qur’an says:

"As for those who divide Their religion and break up Into sects, thou hast No part in them in the least: Their affair is with Allah: He will in the end Tell them the truth Of all that they did." [Al-Qur’an 6:159]

After reading those I donot think there will be any doubt in your mind about sects. May Allah guide us all.

Source:Why Muslims are diveded into Sect? | Learn and Clear Your Misconceptions About Islam.

 

[Looncall]

Hi
Freedom for what? From morals and laws?
The still exist so I can't see the true freedom?

Freedom from the barbarities of ancient times that become fossilized in so-called holy texts.

It is not hard to work out what is needed for people to live together in peace and harmony and to work with others to make good laws to live under. The so-called holy texts are just an impediment to this process.

The universe is a wonderful place. There is no need to decorate it with ghosties and ghoulies and things that go bump in the night.

 

[Onkara]

OK understood. Thanks Looncall

 

[RitalinO.D.]

Where would the pleasure and purpose be?

This goes along with the incorrect notion that to be moral, you must learn these morals through religion.

You can experience pleasure as well as purpose without any form of religion, just as you can be moral without it.

 

[crossfire]

Confused , What to do ?

Being a Muslim I was already confused that which Sect is Right, I am a Sunni Muslim but there are many divisions in Sunnis, then there are Shias and they also have disputes on Imamat, then comes other sects of Islam.

But, When I see the broad Canvas, the disputes are on Prophets in Abrahamic Religions.

Then disputes on Gods.

Each Group has tons of Literatures, Logics, History to proof their faith is right and ultimate.

Is there any Single Point on which all can gather ???

OR Just we have to carry on with the Religion and Sect in which we born and do not care about what others do ???

Where the Quest of Truth Leads Us ??? Is there any End to It ? OR It ends with the Death ???

So Much Confused, cant express my Questions in Words, but if any one of you getting my feeling and can understand what I wanted to ask, Please share your opinions.

Regards,

MeeM Alif Suad

Look for an absence of greed, an absence of hate, and an absence of delusion within the teachers an teachings first, then steer clear of any who kill people, tell lies, steal, etc., and tell others to do the same. (Right guidance)

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

Freedom from the barbarities of ancient times that become fossilized in so-called holy texts.

It is not hard to work out what is needed for people to live together in peace and harmony and to work with others to make good laws to live under. The so-called holy texts are just an impediment to this process.

The more ancient the Books, the more primitive they seem to us and the harder we have to work at seeing moral commands, for example, as metaphorical or copyist error or mistranslations, etc.

In the future, I think more and more people will see the Bible as a quaint-but-interesting ancient book which has a few good ideas in it -- rather than as the literal Word of God.

 

[Onkara]

This goes along with the incorrect notion that to be moral, you must learn these morals through religion.

You can experience pleasure as well as purpose without any form of religion, just as you can be moral without it.

What would the purpose be?
I can imagine pleasure of course, that could be based on eating, having friends and so on.

 

[Looncall]

What would the purpose be?
I can imagine pleasure of course, that could be based on eating, having friends and so on.

You get to choose.

Mind you, I'm not sure what you mean by "purpose" here. Would you care to explain?

 

[Onkara]

You get to choose.

Mind you, I'm not sure what you mean by "purpose" here. Would you care to explain?

The purpose of living, of life. I find it through religion. Perhaps this is a topic in itself, but I would be interested to hear your non-religious explanation because I like to challenge my own ideas.

 

[Looncall]

The purpose of living, of life. I find it through religion. Perhaps this is a topic in itself, but I would be interested to hear your non-religious explanation because I like to challenge my own ideas.

But what do you mean by purpose, and how do you know it applies to living, or life?

I suspect that talk of purpose is often a scam designed to let clergy lead people around by the nose.

 

[MissAlice]

People from all around the world are likely incorrect on all sorts of things.

The global information age is certainly an interesting one, where very different cultures that mostly internally incubated their own philosophies are now interconnected at light speed. Previously they were only interconnected by very slow moving trading paths.

In the market place of ideas, where logic and evidence can be used to compare different ideas, some of them will likely prevail over others. Who knows how long that can take and what direction it will lead in.

Generally speaking, the more detailed ideas people come up with that are not based on sound logic, the more they are exposing their self to being "wrong". More conservative approaches are to read information from around the world and remain uncommitted to any given position unless the evidence is overwhelming.

As Bertrand Russell once said:
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.”

I think I agree with Penumbra on this issue. Having said that, I don't see why you must choose one label or brand of religion. If you're spiritually looking of a path or a path at all, be a seeker. I don't know why one has to be right over the other. Isn't that what's wrong with the world today and has been for many many years? My path is atheism because until god or a divine religion can prove itself, I remain skeptical. Anyway good luck with your search.

 

[Onkara]

But what do you mean by purpose, and how do you know it applies to living, or life?

I suspect that talk of purpose is often a scam designed to let clergy lead people around by the nose.

For example, I find purpose in life through religion. If I didn't have religion would there be a new purpose or just a void where that was?

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

For example, I find purpose in life through religion. If I didn't have religion would there be a new purpose or just a void where that was?

I see human growth as purpose. It's just my own personal assumption -- as good as any other, I think, and as defensible as any other. But it was never taught to me by a prophet or holy book.

So a lot of what I do is working to grow myself and challenging others to grow. I do that mostly by pushing for a greater comfort level with ambiguity and uncertainty. We can't grow if we already know the answers.

 

[Onkara]

I see human growth as purpose. It's just my own personal assumption -- as good as any other, I think, and as defensible as any other. But it was never taught to me by a prophet or holy book.

So a lot of what I do is working to grow myself and challenging others to grow. I do that mostly by pushing for a greater comfort level with ambiguity and uncertainty. We can't grow if we already know the answers.

Hi
Do you see religions or holy books stopping personal or human growth, how?

What do you mean ambiguity and uncertainty, do you mean reducing those factors so you have more stability in material life (such as a house, family, insurance and so on, for the future)?

 

[Looncall]

For example, I find purpose in life through religion. If I didn't have religion would there be a new purpose or just a void where that was?

That would be up to you. I expect you could find many to choose from.