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Contingency plans ahead of possible Trump win

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
These make sense sicne Harris is the vp and will have policies much like Biden, and the stock market has doubled in the last 4 years. Economists have been critical of Trump's economic ideas and they predict a downturn.

Reactionary without a cause. I doubt you would do this if you haven't done it already. Just sounds like a tantrum on your part.

Nothing on your list has any basis in fact. Your credibility is alreaddy in the toilet so I'm not sure what impact you believed your list would have on critical thinkers. It's just sour grapes if the criminal candidate doesn't win the flawed Electoral College. Enjoy your unnecessary anxiety as Harris rises in the polls, and Trump continues to make stupid and incoherent claims at his emotional support rallies.

At least you don't seem to be preparing to attack the USA if he loses.
Why would I prepare to attack the USA? It's my home. I am an American, born and raised here in the US.

I wouldn't care much if my credibility were in the toilet, as you claim. I'm not trying to sell anything or trying to get anyone believe anything, so I have no need for credibility.
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
If you fear Trump winning, do you have a contingency plan in case he does win or just relying on hope that he doesn't win.

I would be donating to the Harris/Walz campaign if it were legal for me to do so, but it isn't.

If Trump gets in again, I likely won't be vacationing in the US while he's in office. Does that count as a contingency plan?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I'll likely seek asylum in the freest country left in North America.... Mexico.

I've been thinking about Norway for years. Maybe this would the motivation I need to get off my butt.

Farvel!
What's your timeline?
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Why do you believe that?
Because the word democracy alone does not tell what type of democracy we are. The people in the US rule by elected representatives instead of directly voting. We also have a constitution that limits what the people can vote for. We cannot directly vote to remove free speech rights for example. A true democracy is mob rule and will leave the rights of the minority unprotected. I think our system is best described as a republic, we have representatives that decide policy and have to comply with the constitution protecting the rights of the minority form the will of the majority.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Because the word democracy alone does not tell what type of democracy we are.
How can you say USA isn't a democracy,
while addressing the type of democracy it is?
The people in the US rule by elected representatives instead of directly voting. We also have a constitution that limits what the people can vote for. We cannot directly vote to remove free speech rights for example. A true democracy is mob rule and will leave the rights of the minority unprotected. I think our system is best described as a republic, we have representatives that decide policy and have to comply with the constitution protecting the rights of the minority form the will of the majority.
"Democracy" is a broad term about elected representation.
Your "true democracy" is a uselessly narrow definition.
Dictionaries show the broader usage of the word....
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
How can you say USA isn't a democracy,
while addressing the type of democracy it is?
I explained why. Republic is a better definition.
"Democracy" is a broad term about elected representation.
Your "true democracy" is a uselessly narrow definition.
Dictionaries show the broader usage of the word....
Ok. Use it if you want but just saying we are a democracy does not say much about our political system since as you say are many different types. . Saying we are a constitutional republic says more about what we actually are.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
If you fear Trump winning, do you have a contingency plan in case he does win or just relying on hope that he doesn't win.

Leading pollster warns Americans ‘should make contingency plans’ ahead of possible Trump win

It's just more BS. More fear-mongering. Trump is not going to win. And even if he did, someone would eliminate him as soon as he started tearing things apart. Not everyone in this country is a spineless fool. Trump is not going to be allowed to crash the biggest money pump on the planet (that is the U.S.A.). And yet it's clear that he's way too stupid not to try, if he wins. So it'd be far better for him if he loses. Because Donald the Dictator is never going be allowed to happen.
 
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We Never Know

No Slack
USA is a democratic republic.

"While often categorized as a democracy, the United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic. What does this mean? “Constitutional” refers to the fact that government in the United States is based on a Constitution which is the supreme law of the United States. The Constitution not only provides the framework for how the federal and state governments are structured, but also places significant limits on their powers. “Federal” means that there is both a national government and governments of the 50 states. A “republic” is a form of government in which the people hold power, but elect representatives to exercise that power."



However North Korea is a democratic republic ;)
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
If only that meant something. Clinton beat Trump by nearly 3 million votes. It was the 72K votes in four states that decided the 2016 election. Now it is just a few states that will decide who our president is. We can see Harris win a majority again but Trump wins crucial swing states by a small margin. If that happens, and Trump does enable the two terrible agendas, there will be a great deal of anxiety and frustration among the majority.
Your right. No matter how you look at it, the election will come down to Pennsylvania.

Historical Pennsylvania Poll Averages: (Real Clear Polling)
2016 Clinton 11/1 Poll 46.8% Actual 47.5% Diff 0.7%
2016 Trump 11/1 Poll 44.7% Actual 48.2% Diff 3.5%

2020 Biden 11/1 Poll 49.7% Actual 50.0% Diff 0.3%
2020 Trump 11/1 Poll 45.4% Actual 48.8% Diff 3.4%

2024 Harris 9/21 Poll 49.0%
2024 Trump 9/21 Poll 47.3%

Projected actuals based on previous years

2024 Harris 9/21 Poll 49.0% Actual add 0.7% Final Projected 49.7%
2024 Trump 9/21 Poll 47.3% Actual add 3.4% Final projected 50.7%

If Trump underperforms in polls like the last two elections Trump should win PA and the election. Either way it will be close.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
It's just more BS. More fear-mongering. Trump is not going to win. And even if he did, someone would eliminate him as soon as he started tearing things apart. Not everyone in this country is a spineless fool. Trump is not going to be allowed to crash the biggest money pump on the planet (that is the U.S.A.). And yet it's clear I that he's way too stupid not to try, if he wins. So it'd be far better for him if he loses. Because Donald the Dictator is never going be allowed to happen.
So you are relying on hope he loses and relying on hope if he does win, someone eliminates him.
 
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