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Cops Love To Bully & Assault Civilians

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cops taze a man dozens of times, electrocuting him.
Man is unable to walk to patrol car when arrested.
Then he's unconscious.
Despite this, cops provide no medical attention.
Man is dead.
Cops are being charged.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In liberal Vermont, a woman is distraught over death in family.
Husband calls cops, but then tells dispatch things are calmed down.
Dispatch cancels call. Cops continue on anyway.
Cops arrive, enter the home, & immediately attack the sitting
woman, throwing her to the floor, cutting her head, breaking
a rib, giving her a concussion, & injuring her elbow.
To cover their actions, cops accuse her of assault, & lie on their
report. Police chief said they did as they were trained.
Taxpayers pay her $60,000.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Freezing cold weather.
Kid is driving golf cart on public road.
Cops stop & question him.
To get desired answers, they put tight handcuffs
on him, & place him in the back seat of their cruiser.
The supervisor arrives, & rolls the window down to
"freeze him out". He then mocks the kid's suffering.
All cops present go along with the torture.
They all mute their body cameras to have a private
discussion about what they're doing to the kid.
This supervisor is later named "Supervisor Of The Year".
Then this video is leaked by news after FOIA requests.
The cover-up of torturing a child has failed.
Supervisor is demoted.
Chief resigns.
Other cop is fired.
There should be prosecutions.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I don’t think most cops want to bully or assault civilians, but I think many of them do want to bully and assault “the bad guys” and they all think they know who that is, when they don’t. And it’s this idea that they are the strong arm of justice that makes them immune to taking honest responsibility for their own bad behavior.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
We see it over & over. Cops use any pretext
to beat & arrest people. Doesn't matter if
there's no reasonable suspicion of a crime.
This former cop explains how he was trained,
& why cops escalate matters, intend injury,
& construct a scenario to frame the victim
for a fake crime. Victim has a $75,000
medical bill. Suit is inevitable.

Caution: Physical & verbal abuse of the victim
who is in great pain.
Today's Guardian,

$150m paid in police misconduct claims shows violent response to 2020 protests, experts say

That is for 132 lawsuits regarding George Floyd protests only.

“After reviewing so many lawsuits, a consistent story emerges: cops had zero interest in honoring the first amendment rights of protesters,” said Sue Udry, executive director of the free speech group Defending Rights & Dissent and author of the report. “The most successful lawsuits won restitution for individuals and significant new restrictions on police. But they are piecemeal, and no substitute for systemic change.”
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don’t think most cops want to bully or assault civilians, but I think many of them do want to bully and assault “the bad guys” and they all think they know who that is, when they don’t. And it’s this idea that they are the strong arm of justice that makes them immune to taking honest responsibility for their own bad behavior.
Being a "bad cop" isn't limited to cops who want to
bully civilians / bad guys. It includes those who
enable it by failing to intervene, & by participating
in cover-ups of crimes.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Being a "bad cop" isn't limited to cops who want to
bully civilians / bad guys. It includes those who
enable it by failing to intervene, & by participating
in cover-ups of crimes.
For example...how would you judge this Italian guy's behavior?
He just wanted his two smartphones back...they were in a nightclub.
And the situation escalated.

 

PureX

Veteran Member
Being a "bad cop" isn't limited to cops who want to
bully civilians / bad guys. It includes those who
enable it by failing to intervene, & by participating
in cover-ups of crimes.
I agree. But I don’t think it’s because they want to be bullies. I think it’s because they think they are the deciders and dispensers of justice. That they’re therefor above the laws they enforce.
 
Alas, his views are common. Even on RF, posters
have blamed the victims for being illegally assaulted.
If one is a jerk, emotional, or impaired in some way,
they're fair game for angry cops thumping them.
The Constitution is irrelevant to many people in so
many ways, 1st Amendment, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 14th....

Second amendment?

How does gundamentalism help?

We need to take away the guns, so that cops can feel safe.

It’s a religious issue.

That way, they are less likely to mistake us for gundamentalists, and de-escalation becomes a possibility, so we’re less likely to be shot by cops or by gundamentalists.

Alternatively, we can further militarize the police and give them bigger and badder weapons to deal with the gundamentalists, and just hope and pray that we don’t get shot in the crossfire.

Anyway, there’s two ideas that we can choose between. De-escalation or escalation.

 
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Alas, his views are common. Even on RF, posters
have blamed the victims for being illegally assaulted.
If one is a jerk, emotional, or impaired in some way,
they're fair game for angry cops thumping them.
The Constitution is irrelevant to many people in so
many ways, 1st Amendment, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 14th....

Second Amendment?

Have you seen how gundamentalists talk about civil war?

Even here in this forum?

What do you think that will lead to?

Remember, this is a religious issue.

However oppressed you feel as a libertarian gundamentalist, there are people all over the world who are rejecting violence. Why not follow their lead in your interactions with authority figures?

Why not try the Palestinian method, instead of Gundamentalism. They know a lot about the inefectiveness of gundamentalism, and they have a lot to teach you.


Budrus(2009)

Budrus is an award-winning feature documentary film about Palestinian community organizer, Ayed Morrar, who unites Palestinian political factions and invites Israeli supporters to join an unarmed movement to save his village of Budrus from destruction by Israel’s Separation Barrier. Success eludes them until his 15-year-old daughter, Iltezam, launches a women’s contingent that quickly moves to the front lines. Struggling side by side, father and daughter unleash an inspiring, yet little-known, movement in the Occupied Palestinian Territories that is still gaining ground today. In an action-filled documentary chronicling this movement from its infancy, Budrus shines a light on people who choose nonviolent strategies to confront a threat.

While this film is about one Palestinian village, it tells a much bigger story about what is possible in the Middle East. Ayed succeeded in doing what many people believe to be impossible: he united feuding Palestinian political groups, including Fatah and Hamas; he brought women to the heart of the struggle by encouraging his daughter Iltezam's leadership; and welcoming hundreds of Israelis to cross into Palestinian territory for the first time and join this nonviolent effort. Many of the activists who joined the villagers of Budrus are now continuing to support nonviolence efforts in villages from Bil’in to Nabi Saleh to Hebron to Sheikh Jarrah in East Jerusalem.

While many documentaries about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict either romanticize the notion of peace, or dwell entirely on the suffering of victims to the conflict, this film focuses on the success of a Palestinian-led unarmed struggle.

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I agree. But I don’t think it’s because they want to be bullies. I think it’s because they think they are the deciders and dispensers of justice. That they’re therefor above the laws they enforce.
I agree.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I agree. But I don’t think it’s because they want to be bullies. I think it’s because they think they are the deciders and dispensers of justice. That they’re therefor above the laws they enforce.
Absolutely not...
I have seen that in the case of Matteo Falcinelli. A guy who asked for the cops' help because he wanted his phones back.
They told him to go home.

If I ask cops for help in my country, they don't tell me to go home.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Absolutely not...
I have seen that in the case of Matteo Falcinelli. A guy who asked for the cops' help because he wanted his phones back.
They told him to go home.

If I ask cops for help in my country, they don't tell me to go home.
No, they ask you how much money you have?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
The ex-cop who operates the youtube channel I linked
described most cops as being trained to wrongfully
charge people with crimes.
I doubt that very much.
That cop is having a laugh, because duty cops just don't charge folks, that's probably duty sergeants at the very least.
He's making fun of you, it might even be a spoof site?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
The ex-cop who operates the youtube channel I linked
described most cops as being trained to wrongfully
charge people with crimes.
I doubt that very much.
That cop is having a laugh, because duty cops just don't charge folks, that's probably duty sergeants at the very least.
He's making fun of you, it might even be a spoof site?
 
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