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Cornel West announces 2024 run for president as People’s Party candidate

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You & I might be the only ones on RF
to accept such narrow definitions.
With such terms having no clear definition
by those advocating such agendas, it would
be useful if West stated specific beliefs &
goals. Instead, we get a slogan.

I do know, after studying political economics, what socialism is, historically and culturally.

And Scandinavian countries are all socialistic. Iceland, most of all.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I do know, after studying political economics, what socialism is, historically and culturally.

And Scandinavian countries are all socialistic. Iceland, most of all.
You illustrated my point beautifully.
Capitalism = Socialism = Communism = Marxism = Feudalism = Hunter Gatherer = Slavery
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You illustrated my point beautifully.
Capitalism = Socialism = Communism = Marxism = Feudalism = Hunter Gatherer

I believe in dualism. ;)
Explain me the difference between Keynesian model and the Monetarist one.

Without using links or external stuff. Tell me the difference between these two macro-economics models. In your words.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Those terms have no agreed upon definitions.
So it's better to discuss details than to argue
over jargon.
I'll try to explain it to you in the simplest way possible.
The Keynesian model states that there is no potential product, since a country's production depends on the demand for goods and services, within a macroeconomic system. So through supply-side economics it is possible to align the demand with the overall supply of goods and services.
Inflation will depend on the variations of the demand and the supply, but only in the long run.
These kinds of economics are socialistic-like. Because the State uses its own power and resources to make the GDP align with the demand.

Monetarists, led by Friedman, used to say that inflation entirely depends on the variations of the money supply. So they state that if a State increases the public expenditure, by issuing more and more money, this will create inflation. This is based upon the (false) postulate according to which the agents of the monetary circuit like enterprises will increase the prices in the short run and in the medium run.
When it has been proven that it never happens. Inflation entirely depends on the shortage of goods and services. So if there is shortage, the enterprises will be forced to increase the prices to make the demand decrease.

The Monetarist thought and the Classical model are like a poison that poisoned our sacred, socialistic Europe.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'll try to explain it to you in the simplest way possible.
The Keynesian model states that there is no potential product, since a country's production depends on the demand for goods and services, within a macroeconomic system. So through supply-side economics it is possible to align the demand with the overall supply for goods and services.
Inflation will depend on the variations of the demand and the supply, but only in the long run.
These kinds of economics are socialistic-like. Because the State uses its own power and resources to make the GDP align with the demand.

Monetarists, led by Friedman, used to say that inflation entirely depends on the variations of the money supply. So they states that if a State increases the public expenditure, by issuing more and more money, this will create inflation. This is based upon the (false) postulate according to which the agents of the monetary circuit like enterprises will increase the prices in the short run and in the medium run.
When it has been proven that it never happens. Inflation entirely depends on the shortage of goods and services. So if there is shortage, the enterprises will be forced to increase the prices to make the demand decrease.

The Monetarist thought and the Classical model are like a poison that poisoned our sacred, socialistic Europe.
I disagree with your simplistic characterizations of each.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I disagree with your simplistic characterizations of each.

There are great economists and jurists that agree with me about Monetarism.
It's the evil root of neo-liberism: Milton Friedman, Hayek, Stiglitz.

I can explain it more clearly and more thoroughly in Italian, of course.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There are great economists and jurists that agree with me about Monetarism.
It's the evil root of neo-liberism: Milton Friedman, Hayek, Stiglitz.

I can explain it more clearly and more thoroughly in Italian, of course.
I can only imagine your "great economists"....
Marx, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, AOC, etc.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Do you really believe that....
That is a poor way to begin question.
It presumes that I've stated such a belief.
Yet I haven't.

I've less time to post on RF today.
I don't want to waste it on pointless bickering.
Try offering interesting discussion.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
Some might say he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning, but I do like what he stands for. I don't even know if any People's Party candidates will even be on the ballot.

He hasn't a chance to win. All he will do is take away votes from the more progressive democrats.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That is a poor way to begin question.
It presumes that I've stated such a belief.
Yet I haven't.

I've less time to post on RF today.
I don't want to waste it on pointless bickering.
Try offering interesting discussion.
Since Cornel West wants to make free universal healthcare in the US...
why can't the United States have it?
The FED will print all the dollars the Government needs to fund it. ;)
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That worked so well in the Weimar Republic.
But...what a coincidence...in those same years Mussolini revalued the Lira and increased the public expenditure, by issuing more and more banknotes.
The German case was due to the unjust debt that Germany was forced to pay.
They printed so many Marks because of the American usurers that forced the Weimarer Republik to pay all that money.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Obviously not.

You said:


The article you linked to clarifies that Marxism/Leninism is a form of socialism.
Thus, all Marxism/Leninism is socialism but not all socialism is Marxism/Leninism.
OK what other forms of socialism are there, and who is the person responsible for creating socialism?

I maintain it all came from Marx and Lenin.
 
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