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Cornel West announces 2024 run for president as People’s Party candidate

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But now Germany has universal healthcare...and has no inflation.
How's that? ;)
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Inflation is something good.
As the Phillips Curve shows. It keeps the economy dynamical.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
"End the Wars".
I think Americans should start enjoying life and have sex more.
Instead of being obsessed with wars in countries they have never heard of, before.
What are wars for?
We're not obsessed with wars. We simply detest unprovoked invasions and war crimes. We don't like it when children are kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered, etc. Sad that some hate the west so much that they're willing to sweep such atrocities under the rug.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
We're not obsessed with wars. We simply detest unprovoked invasions and war crimes. We don't like it when children are kidnapped, tortured, raped, murdered, etc. Sad that some hate the west so much that they're willing to sweep such atrocities under the rug.
You misread me. ;)
I meant...it's right to condemn those wars but not to send Americans to die there.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
You misread me. ;)
I meant...it's right to condemn those wars but not to send Americans to die there.
Many have joined Ukraine's foreign legion voluntarily. Also, apparently some (MAGA cultists) have joined Wagner as well. So there's the possibility of American vs. American combat.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Many have joined Ukraine's foreign legion voluntarily. Also, apparently some (MAGA cultists) have joined Wagner as well. So there's the possibility of American vs. American combat.

I will go there too as a nurse then. I may find my Zhivago there...who knows...
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
All socialism is Marxist/Leninism.

Definitely not. Marxism-Leninism is primarily communist, heavily centralized, and a lot farther-reaching than most forms of socialism, and socialism predates that whole ideology. Not all socialism is Marxist either, although a lot of modern socialists are Marxists or borrow from Marxism.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Definitely not. Marxism-Leninism is primarily communist, and socialism predates that whole ideology. Not all socialism is Marxist either, although a lot of modern socialists are Marxists or borrow from Marxism.
Wrong. Socialism, communism, Marxism, liberalism, and wokeness are all synonymous and are defined as anything U.S. conservatives either don't like or understand. Right @Twilight Hue ?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
We have names of the founders of socialism/communism.

Do you?
If I recall my social studies class correctly, Communism/socialism technically dates back to at least Ancient Greece, with many well known philosophers debating or pondering such ideas.
Though in the modern sense, Socialism is argued to have its roots during the Age of Enlightenment, dating to the French Revolution during 1789.
The communist manifesto was written like a century later

 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Wrong. Socialism, communism, Marxism, liberalism, and wokeness are all synonymous and are defined as anything U.S. conservatives either don't like or understand. Right @Twilight Hue ?
Your just throwing out word salad , and for some unexplainable reason decided to throw in wokeness into the mix which isn't even a political philosophy.

Givin the abysmal track record of socialism and communism, I would hardly consider it to be something hard to understand and definitely unlikable by conservatives, givin what these political systems actually do to people.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Your just throwing out word salad , and for some unexplainable reason decided to throw in wokeness into the mix which isn't even a political philosophy.
"Woke" (going by the original meaning) means being aware of systematic injustices. How is that not political?
Givin the abysmal track record of socialism and communism, I would hardly consider it to be something hard to understand and definitely unlikable by conservatives, givin what these political systems actually do to people.
Sure, real communism, but the problem is that conservatives dismiss and attack universal healthcare (which practically every first world nation other than America has adopted) and other social programs as "communism". It's silly to pretend that not having every single thing privatized and for profit is a slippery slope into the gulag.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Givin the abysmal track record of socialism and communism, I would hardly consider it to be something hard to understand and definitely unlikable by conservatives, givin what these political systems actually do to people.
I'll give you the communists but socialism, especially democratic socialism and social democracy are widely successful political/economic systems. Social democracy is responsible for all the amenities European countries have and the US with its late stage capitalism lacks, namely functioning social security and a functioning health care system.
 
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