Coronavirus precaution overkill ( maybe)

[Quagmire]

Safe in the knowledge that you're not a covidiot with no symptoms passing on a virus that will kill other people, both covidiots and the innocent victims of that idiocy. Keep on being psychotic. I went to a shop today for the first time in weeks. Thankfully it's not owned by covidiots and no covidiots were shopping there. One out / one in to the shop, trollies and baskets wiped after each shopper, arrows directing shoppers around the aisles, two meter distance tapes on the shop floor, staff at aisle meeting points to maintain social distancing, perspex screens on the tills, no cash accepted, all staff with masks...and as a bonus, I won't have been killed by a covidiot.

"Covidiots" I love it! thanks for that, I'll be using that term quite a bit, I predict.

 

[Quagmire]

Interesting how such behavior would be classified by medical professionals as mental illness only a few months ago. Now, it is considered abnormal if one does not behave in such a way.

I'm not so sure what mental health pros would make of it even now.

 

[Quagmire]

That's the problem with doing this kind of research in isolation. Small sample size...

Going to have something cheesy for dinner just in case.

Will get back to you with my findings.

 

[Revoltingest]

I do nothing. I still invite friends and relatives over. We shake hands, hug, act normally. I do no extra cleaning. Any mail goes exactly where it has always gone.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Hey, if you do catch the plague, & the worst happens, can I have your flag.
(It would really annoy posters here.)

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Tell Darwin I said hi when you meet him.

I doubt I would ever meet him. But, you bring up an interesting point. What would Darwin do...during this Corona scare? I mean...since when do we quarantine and isolate those who are not sick?

Are we not over riding 'survival of the fittest'?

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Hey, if you do catch the plague, & the worst happens, can I have your flag.
(It would really annoy posters here.)

Can you identify with the flag? That is the only reason one should fly it. It represents you. It runs in your blood. So, no.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Revoltingest]

Can you identify with the flag? That is the only reason one should fly it. It represents you. It runs in your blood. So, no.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Dang.
I understand though.

 

[Quagmire]

I doubt I would ever meet him. But, you bring up an interesting point. What would Darwin do...during this Corona scare? I mean...since when do we quarantine and isolate those who are not sick?

Are we not over riding 'survival of the fittest'?

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well sure, that's exactly what civilization was designed for.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Well sure, that's exactly what civilization was designed for.

When did civilization quarantine those who were not sick?

The natural world is all about survival of the fittest. That is how it survives. Yet we are by passing that. What will be the consequences?

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I doubt I would ever meet him. But, you bring up an interesting point. What would Darwin do...during this Corona scare? I mean...since when do we quarantine and isolate those who are not sick?

Are we not over riding 'survival of the fittest'?

Good-Ole-Rebel

Since asymptomatic carrying for weeks was a thing. Incidentally, 'survival of the fittest' is an economist term, coined by Herbert Spencer. It's generally not used by biologists since 'fitness' doesn't mean physical fitness and survival is but one selective outcome.
But that's a diversion for another thread.

 

[sun rise]

Interesting how such behavior would be classified by medical professionals as mental illness only a few months ago. Now, it is considered abnormal if one does not behave in such a way.

Yet who would have thought the old man to have had so much [covid-19] in him. (rubbing her hands [with soap for well over 20 seconds]) Come out, damned [virus] ! Out, I command you! - Lady MacBeth (more or less)

 

[sun rise]

When did civilization quarantine those who were not sick?

The natural world is all about survival of the fittest. That is how it survives. Yet we are by passing that. What will be the consequences?

Good-Ole-Rebel

And you identify as a Christian? I guess Jesus said "blessed are the survivors and who cares about the least - they're trash in a Darwinian reject pile"

 

[Quagmire]

When did civilization quarantine those who were not sick?

Considering that we were nomadic hunters and gatherers before the advent of permanent settlements, you could say that civilisation itself is one big shelter in place system.

The natural world is all about survival of the fittest. That is how it survives. Yet we are by passing that. What will be the consequences?

Good-Ole-Rebel

What I'm saying is that one of civilisation 's basic functions is to circumvent natural selection.

The natural world is all about survival of the fittest. That is how it survives. Yet we are by passing that.

We passed that a long time ago.

What will be the consequences?

The same as always, weakness and insanity, if that's how this plays out.

I don't think it will though.

There's an inherent potential in this pandemic for natural selection to manifest itself as survival of the smartest and most considerate.

Wouldn't that be nice?

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

What I'm saying is that one of civilisation 's basic functions is to circumvent natural selection.



We passed that a long time ago.



The same as always, weakness and insanity, if that's how this plays out.

I don't think it will though.

there's an inherent potential in this pandemic for natural selection to manifest itself as survival of the smartest and mo st considerate.

But still, civilization does not quarantine the healthy.

If circumventing natural selection results in weakness, and insanity, why do it?

Smartest and considerate doesn't equate with survival of sicknesses.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Quagmire]

Yet who would have thought the old man to have had so much [covid-19] in him. (rubbing her hands [with soap for well over 20 seconds]) Come out, damned [virus] ! Out, I command you! - Lady MacBeth (more or less)

Now do The Merchant of Virus

 

[Quagmire]

But still, civilization does not quarantine the healthy.

i disagree. by natural selection standards it often quarentines some of the healthiest.

If circumventing natural selection results in weakness, and insanity, why do it?

Everybody wants to live ( mostly everybody).

Smartest and considerate doesn't equate with survival of sicknesses.

Good-Ole-Rebel

It does sometimes.


(Note: I edited the first part of my previous post to you)

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

i disagree. by natural selection standards it often quarentines some of the healthiest.


Everybody wants to live ( mostly everybody).



It does sometimes.


(Note: I edited the first part of my previous post to you)

Quarantine doesn't produce the healthiest. It produces a weaker. This is why civilization has quarantined the sick. Not the healthy...till now.

But every one is going to die.

And the consequences? A weaker and unhealthier people.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Quagmire]

Quarantine doesn't produce the healthiest.

That wasn't the question. You asked when civilization quarantined the healthy.

It produces a weaker. This is why civilization has quarantined the sick. Not the healthy...till now.

It quarantines the sick to protect the healthy, usually.

But every one is going to die.

People generally strive to put that off as long as possible.

And the consequences? A weaker and unhealthier people.

Good-Ole-Rebel

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I suppose we would have to agree on definitions of strength and health.

In the case of this pandemic, most of what we can do to protect ourselves also protects everyone else, and visa versa.

Doing so is smart on the one hand, and considerate on the other.

Intelligence has always proven itself to be a driving force in human evolution, just as mutual consideration is a driving force in the evolution of human society.

 

[sun rise]

Natural selection is selecting for the intelligent who, knowing that the healthy and strong can die from the virus, choose to take precautions and not put themselves at risk unnecessarily.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Quarantine doesn't produce the healthiest. It produces a weaker. This is why civilization has quarantined the sick. Not the healthy...till now.

But every one is going to die.

And the consequences? A weaker and unhealthier people.

Good-Ole-Rebel

This is eugenics, not evolution. And certainly not smart policy making in regards to virus with a long dormancy period and high contagion rate.