Coronavirus precaution overkill ( maybe)

[Twilight Hue]

Sitting in a motel room, watching old Gunsmoke episides. I've got all the fawcetts and knobs covered in plastic sandwich bags, all the furniture covered in garbage bags, and the bed covered with the rain fly from a tent ( using my own sleeping bag rather than the covers ).

Also have the remote inside of a sandwich bag.

This is after spaying everything with hydrogen peroxide.

Now I can relax.


. . . Because I 'd rather be crazy than uncomfortable.

You forgot the plastic bag over your head!

Now that could be considered overkill!! Literally and truly!

 

[Quagmire]

You forgot the plastic bag over your head!

Now that could be considered overkill!! Literally and truly!

That's for date night.

 

[Shad]

Sitting in a motel room, watching old Gunsmoke episides. I've got all the fawcetts and knobs covered in plastic sandwich bags, all the furniture covered in garbage bags, and the bed covered with the rain fly from a tent ( using my own sleeping bag rather than the covers ).

Also have the remote inside of a sandwich bag.

This is after spaying everything with hydrogen peroxide.

Now I can relax.


. . . Because I 'd rather be crazy than uncomfortable.

Depending on the motel I would be overly cautious in general regardless of covid 19

 

[We Never Know]

Sitting in a motel room, watching old Gunsmoke episides. I've got all the fawcetts and knobs covered in plastic sandwich bags, all the furniture covered in garbage bags, and the bed covered with the rain fly from a tent ( using my own sleeping bag rather than the covers ).

Also have the remote inside of a sandwich bag.

This is after spaying everything with hydrogen peroxide.

Now I can relax.


. . . Because I 'd rather be crazy than uncomfortable.

For me that's overkill but whatever makes you feel comfortable is what counts.
If I may ask, how/what would you normally do in a motel or public bathroom before COVID-19?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Depending on the motel I would be overly cautious in general regardless of covid 19

Hotels with a big number on it.

What could go wrong?

 

[Wandering Monk]

But still, civilization does not quarantine the healthy.l

Who is healthy (not carrying the virus)? We don't know how widespread the virus is and since a person can infect someone else and not know they have it, quarantining makes sense to protect each other.

I suppose another option would be to let low-risk people go about their business, but how would you make sure that they don't infect vulnerable people?

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

That wasn't the question. You asked when civilization quarantined the healthy.



It quarantines the sick to protect the healthy, usually.



People generally strive to put that off as long as possible.

I

I suppose we would have to agree on definitions of strength and health.

In the case of this pandemic, most of what we can do to protect ourselves also protects everyone else, and visa versa.

Doing so is smart on the one hand, and considerate on the other.

Intelligence has always proven itself to be a driving force in human evolution, just as mutual consideration is a driving force in the evolution of human society.

Yes, that is what I asked. Because quarantining the sick is what civilization does.

Of course we do. But, we still drive our cars though thousands die everyday in car accidents. If we don't drive or use a car we reduce our chances of dying in a car accident considerably. But in our society, in most places, we also are not able to function. So we drive and take the risk.

How smart or considerate it is, I think, has yet to be determined. Destruction of the economy. Loss of jobs. Loss of business's. Suicide. Divorce. Alcoholism. etc. etc. Not to mention how it produces an unhealthier people.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Who is healthy (not carrying the virus)? We don't know how widespread the virus is and since a person can infect someone else and not know they have it, quarantining makes sense to protect each other.

I suppose another option would be to let low-risk people go about their business, but how would you make sure that they don't infect vulnerable people?

That's right, we don't know. And can't know at every given moment. And when are we going to know when the virus is gone? We arn't. So we just stay quarantined the rest of our lives based on that.

Interesting how some are considered high risk and low risk at this time. I bet you that man or woman who had a job and their family's lives and future depended on it didn't consider themselves 'low risk'. I bet they felt like it was pretty high risk. Alas, others didn't think so.

In other words, government has determined who is important enough, and who is not.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Shad]

Hotels with a big number on it.

What could go wrong?

It is more about the prices than name. You get what you pay for so to speak.

 

[metis]

I think we need to take more directions on this from university professors and other medical scholars and economists, not so much politicians. We need to make decisions on those who have studied these for decades, thus not knee-jerk politicians who have politically-motivated vested interests.

IOW, we should rely more on study, not just sheer emotion nor political tribalism.

 

[Quagmire]

For me that's overkill but whatever makes you feel comfortable is what counts.
If I may ask, how/what would you normally do in a motel or public bathroom before COVID-19?

This is the first time in more than 10 years I've stayed at a motel, but back when it was a regular part of my life I didnt take any special precautions, other than keeping my socks on when I walked on the floor.

 

[Quagmire]

Yes, that is what I asked. Because quarantining the sick is what civilization does.

As well as the healthy: Do societies sometimes "quarentine" the healthy.

Created a thread for this since this one is in a non debate area.

 

[Quagmire]

Yes, that is what I asked. Because quarantining the sick is what civilization does.

Of course we do. But, we still drive our cars though thousands die everyday in car accidents. If we don't drive or use a car we reduce our chances of dying in a car accident considerably.

And in most places seatbelts and other safety equipment are mandatory for the same reasons that masks and social dustancing are mandatiry right now.

But in our society, in most places, we also are not able to function. So we drive and take the risk.

And minimize the risks in any eay we can.

How smart or considerate it is, I think, has yet to be determined. Destruction of the economy. Loss of jobs. Loss of business's. Suicide. Divorce. Alcoholism. etc. etc. Not to mention how it produces an unhealthier people.

Good-Ole-Rebel

People wearing masks and practicing socual distancing ( which us whatvwe were talking about) arent preventing anyone from going to work, running businesses, sicialuzing, etc.

In fact if everyone were wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, It's pretty certain that things would get back to normal a lot sooner.

Now, if you want to continue this how about makeing a thread in the debate forum, since I made the last one?

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

And in most places seatbelts and other safety equipment are mandatory for the same reasons that masks and social dustancing are mandatiry right now.




And minimize the risks in any eay we can.



People wearing masks and practicing socual distancing ( which us whatvwe were talking about) arent preventing anyone from going to work, running businesses, sicialuzing, etc.

In fact if everyone were wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, It's pretty certain that things would get back to normal a lot sooner.

Now, if you want to continue this how about makeing a thread in the debate forum, since I made the last one?

Seatbelts and masks are not quarantine.

Quarantine and sheltering in place are preventing people from going to work. Their being labeled as 'low risk'. Not important enough to keep working.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[dybmh]

the bed covered with the rain fly from a tent

You forgot the plastic bag over your head!

That's for date night.

... oh the tales that rain fly could tell...

 

[Quagmire]

Seatbelts and masks are not quarantine.

No, seatbelts and masks are seatbelts and masks.

They're ways to minimize risk, which is what we were talking about.

Quarantine and sheltering in place are preventing people from going to work.

Good-Ole-Rebel

But masks and social distancing arent. In fact if anything, people who refuse to wear masks and practise social distancing are preventing people from going back to work by aggravating the pandemic.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

no cash accepted

How the hell are people without bank accounts supposed to shop?

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

No, seatbelts and masks are seatbelts and masks.

They're ways to minimize risk, which is what we were talking about.



But masks and social distancing arent. In fact if anything, people who refuse to wear masks and practise social distancing are preventing people from going back to work by aggravating the pandemic.

No, the only thing preventing people going back to work is the government quarantine. Nice try in shifting the blame.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Secret Chief]

How the hell are people without bank accounts supposed to shop?

Not all of the shops are operating that, it's a policy decision of the retailer, not a legal requirement. Universal Credit (state unemployment benefit), like other benefits, is normally paid into a bank account.
(I think I've heard of some retailers only accepting contactless card payments - which I don't have. That's probably a good policy since the card reader can't realistically be cleaned between each customer).

 

[Twilight Hue]

How the hell are people without bank accounts supposed to shop?

It's clear they don't think about those things.