Something that exists cannot not exist because it clearly exists. If it exists then it is in existance it then is a matter really of does another believe in that existance or not. A simply human opinion based upon their own thoughts. Who are they to make such considerations and demand others follow their personnel beliefs. Just because they have their personnel doubts that does not give their opinion any form of authenticity. It defies logic.
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Could God Exist, And Not Exist Too?
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By the way as a matter of curiosity. I think I can prove the existence of the "Living God". Very simply. As for the gods that many of you may have heard about or believe in, well that is a whole other matter. It is most probable that I can with ease establish that your gods are false. That is the price many pay for following the words of the many false Prophets. A god of mans imagination can always be proven to be false. As can those religions that follow false gods and false prophets. Already Christianity and Islam have bitten the Dust and before the very eyes of their own congregations.
They made the mistake of challenging me. Wasnt long before they all bit the Dust. I should point out that those so called religious scholars were mere crumbs on my breakfast table.
They made the mistake of challenging me. Wasnt long before they all bit the Dust. I should point out that those so called religious scholars were mere crumbs on my breakfast table.
Could God Exist, And Not Exist Too?
If one has a definition of God, then I can't see how it can both exist and not exist.
But I can see how it can exist in one person's definition but not exist under another person's definition.
If one has a definition of God, then I can't see how it can both exist and not exist.
But I can see how it can exist in one person's definition but not exist under another person's definition.
Mohammad Nur Syamsu
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Very commonly God is referred to as the holy spirit. This is why Jesus could say he was the son of God, so that he was God. People could see the physical body of Jesus, but whether or not he is God is a matter of opinion. You consider who is Jesus as being the owner of his decisions, his spirit, and then you can choose the answer God the holy spirit, or messenger, or ordinary human being. All answers are logically valid, same as saying a painting is ugly is just as logically valid as saying a painting is beautiful. That is how subjectivity works, more than 1 answer is valid and the answer must be chosen.
And the conclusion must be that you have no understanding of subjectivity whatsoever.
Starjade says; I am someone who is more factual in my thinking so allow me this opportunity to point out some errors in your thinking. In the first place the New Testament character Jesus did not say anything at all. It was some obscure writer of the New Testament making such claims and statements as if from the mouths of another when in truth that writer was not a witness to any such described events.
It is a matter of Deuteronomy law that the tales writ in the New Testament and the Quran regarding the character Jesus are not true. You need to have two or three actual witnesses and actual statements from those witnesses to establish if the matter is true or not. In case you are religious ignorant as your statement does imply then let me explain that the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verses 15 onwards is a law brought down by Moses from the Living God himself. This makes that law the actual word of the Living God. It is a law that determines matters of the truth regarding any crimes of iniquity or sin. The claims from the Christians and Muslims do fall under those categories, as they are blasphemous.
There are no witnesses to the birth of Jesus or to any of the claimed miracles or his death. They are all simply story written tales written to imply that the long awaited Deuteronomy Prophet had appeared and this was the character Jesus. Those tales were not true. However as Muhammad of Islam believed them then these imaginary tales also became a part of the Quran.
Neither books are written about Jesus by any actual witnesses. It is rather like saying Sherlock Holmes existed because you read it in a book.
Jesus never did exist. The New Testament is simply an implication of such an existence lacking any form of historical or witness Testimony proof. Fanciful stories based on pity to touch the belief systems of a human soul should not beguile one. You will be telling us all next that Santa Claus exists along with the Tooth fairy.
I can say to you and from actual knowledge of direct operation and not by reasoning nor speculation that the “Living God” is a Spherical entity and as alive if not more than both you and I. Not something of the etheric but something alive and in existence as a unit on its own.
I am astonished at how so many voice their opinions as if fact upon the physical nature of the “Living God” when they have not had such an encounter with this entity. It just does not occur to these fantasizes that the Living God might be an organism as real as you or I. Instead they run off into fanciful dreams of what they think the Living God must be. And they so lack imagination.
Is "God" out there, or in here, or everywhere ?
No one on this earth can see this "God", or hear "it" !
This "God" can't write on anything, nor "say" it !
I have to wonder why "it" hides there, here, anywhere ?
Isn't a bit foolish that so much power would have to hide ?
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But it's spirit is everywhere, doing miracles and such.
Like the tide going out and then in, because the moon resolves about us.
And the moon came from what ?, remember...we don't really know.
As far as one can see, and further, into the galaxies and beyond,
"it" still hides, "it's" busy saving babies !
Or such !
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No one on this earth can see this "God", or hear "it" !
This "God" can't write on anything, nor "say" it !
I have to wonder why "it" hides there, here, anywhere ?
Isn't a bit foolish that so much power would have to hide ?
~
But it's spirit is everywhere, doing miracles and such.
Like the tide going out and then in, because the moon resolves about us.
And the moon came from what ?, remember...we don't really know.
As far as one can see, and further, into the galaxies and beyond,
"it" still hides, "it's" busy saving babies !
Or such !
~
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