Could Nothingness Be Another Dimension In And Of Itself?

[Rick O'Shez]

To determine that, the question needs to be asked: 'Who, or what,is it that is observing the experience?"

Wrong. Non-duality is a result of insight into sunyata, not a cause.

I suspect you are rather scared to deal with the full implications of sunyata because it undercuts your sacred cows like "Cosmic Consciousness" and "Absolute Reality". If you want to get a glimpse of the void you will have to clear out all your convoluted concepts and beliefs. Just drop all that nonsense.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

What you're still not getting is the very seeing with which these observations are determined to be what they are. That is Cosmic Consciousness, which the Buddha experienced and used to develop his principles with.

Either you still haven't understood sunyata or you are deliberately misrepresenting it. Read the Wiki article and study the Heart Sutra.

Prajna ( wisdom ) is a quality of mind, not your fictional "Cosmic Consciousness" as preached by the charlatan Chopra.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Perhaps due to your backwards stagnant Theravada teaching in which Buddha Nature was not developed is why you fail to grasp this principle.

I do wish you would drop this silly straw-man, I've been involved in all the main Buddhist traditions over a long period of time.
In the Mahayana schools Buddha Nature is the potential for enlightenment, not your fictional "Cosmic Consciousness" as preached by the charlatan Chopra. It seems you have become so fixated on your "Cosmic Consciousness" that you have to put it in even where it's completely inappropriate.

And what are your musings based on? It sounds like you flirted with a Zen tradition then went down a Chopra rabbit hole, coming up occasionally to listen to a drunken Alan Watts and look up obscure nonsense on the internet? Yeah, right, real quality.

 

[godnotgod]

I do wish you would drop this silly straw-man, I've been involved in all the main Buddhist traditions over a long period of time.

Is that supposed to mean something?

In the Mahayana schools Buddha Nature is the potential for enlightenment, not your fictional "Cosmic Consciousness" as preached by the charlatan Chopra.

And what are your musings based on? It sounds like you flirted with a Zen tradition then went down a Chopra rabbit hole, coming up occasionally to listen to a drunken Alan Watts? Yeah, right, real quality.[/QUOTE]

I refuse to interact with such stupidity and sheer ignorance any longer. On to Ignore you go. My Zen broom makes a clean sweep. Now scoot.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

This is not about MY view, but THE view.

Nonsense, it's all about your view. You have become very attached to your idiosyncratic interpretation and need to tell everyone about it at great length. The problem is that you are so busy preaching your interpretation that you have stopped asking yourself if it's actually correct. It isn't correct by the way, just a muddle of conflicting ideas.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I refuse to interact with such stupidity and sheer ingorance any longer. On to Ignore you go.

Clearly you can't cope with anyone who disagrees with you, that's been obvious for a very long time.

 

[godnotgod]

Wrong. Non-duality is a result of insight into sunyata, not a cause.
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Non-duality was not the issue; whether there is something changeless present is the question.

You don't know how to think correctly, so I cannot continue any discussion with you.

 

[godnotgod]

Clearly you can't cope with anyone who disagrees with you, that's been obvious for a very long time.

I don't mind disagreement at all; it's stupidity and sheer brazen ignorance that is the problem.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Non-duality was not the issue; whether there is something changeless present is the question. [/QUOTE

Sunyata also undercuts your notion of "The Changeless". In fact sunyata undercuts all your PPNs ( Pretentious Proper Nouns ). Your theories are irrelevant in the void.

You need to have a good spring clean, clear out all your mental garbage!

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I don't mind disagreement at all; it's stupidity and sheer brazen ignorance that is the problem.

According to you anyone who disagrees with your bizarre theories is ignorant.

 

[godnotgod]

Nonsense, it's all about your view. You have become very attached to your idiosyncratic interpretation and need to tell everyone about it at great length. The problem is that you are so busy preaching your interpretation that you have stopped asking yourself if it's actually correct. It isn't correct by the way, just a muddle of conflicting ideas.

You're full of yourself and haven't paid a bit of attention to the actual content of the discussion.

Why have you ignored statements about Perfect View such as Unborn, Uncaused, Ungrown. Does that sound like my personal view? No!, but you want what I say to fit your twisted image of me, which is something akin to a stoned, Berkeley New Age radical drunk on ayahuasca as a prop to contrast with you as a wise old seer, when the fact is that you're just a bag of Buddhish Hot Air who wants to make a point of his exposure to all the Buddhist schools, when he has zero intuitive insight, proven again and again on this forum.

 

[godnotgod]

According to you anyone who disagrees with your bizarre theories is ignorant.

They're not my personal views, but the views of many other prominent figures. Why can't you get that through your head? I have provided countless references to those confirmations, which you have consistently ignored. That is sheer ignorance.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Why have you ignored statements about Perfect View such as Unborn, Uncaused, Ungrown.

Because that section of the Heart Sutra is nothing to do with your "Perfect View".
http://fwbo-news.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/change-to-wording-of-heart-sutra.html

What you're doing is misrepresenting the Heart Sutra to fit your personal agenda, as you have repeatedly done with other Buddhist teachings.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

They're not my personal views, but the views of many other prominent figures

Yeah, people like the charlatan Chopra and the drunk Watts. Prominent for all the wrong reasons.

 

[godnotgod]

Sunyata also undercuts your notion of "The Changeless". In fact sunyata undercuts all your PPNs ( Pretentious Proper Nouns ). Your theories are irrelevant in the void.

Sorry you feel threatened by PPN's. Get your blankee!

The Void is The Changeless. Only your mind keeps moving.

 

[godnotgod]

Because that section of the Heart Sutra is nothing to do with your "Perfect View".
http://fwbo-news.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/change-to-wording-of-heart-sutra.html

Except for the fact that The Heart Sutra as a totality is none other than The PERFECTION of Wisdom, which is precisely Perfect View, but because you don't yet know how to connect dot A to dot B, you want to fight with me out of your own stupidity.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Sorry you feel threatened by PPN's. Get your blankee!

Clearly all those PPNs are your comfort blanket. Sooner or later you will have to let them go and face reality.

 

[godnotgod]

Yeah, people like the charlatan Chopra and the drunk Watts. Prominent for all the wrong reasons.

Only YOU are sober and credible, LOL. I really do believe you are a moralist under the facade of being Buddhist.

Watts and Chopra are giants compared to you. You can't even come close. People all over the world adore Watts even more now that he is gone. Look on YouTube and see how many have devotedly and lovingly reproduced his lectures. But small minds cannot understand great minds, and see them as threats to their security.

I get it now. Buddhism is just a shield you hide behind.

 

[godnotgod]

Clearly all those PPNs are your comfort blanket. Sooner or later you will have to let them go and face reality.

Caps are used to denote The Absolute. That is all. Stop making crap up.

 

[godnotgod]

Yeah, people like the charlatan Chopra and the drunk Watts. Prominent for all the wrong reasons.

Then the tens of thousands of others who hold them in prominence must also be drunk and delusional. Only you see the Truth.