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Could Nothingness Be Another Dimension In And Of Itself?
- Thread starter Runewolf1973
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Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Yah, I don't really see logically how true nothingness and somethingness can exist at the same time. I would say that whatever "nothingness" there is is only a seemingly nothingness.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Really. So practically speaking, how can you tell it's a sphere then, if you're looking at it, for example, through a telescope, and there is no surrounding space in the visual field?
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godnotgod
Thou art That
When you say the word 'nothingness', you have in mind a concept or idea of it as such. However, you unwittingly are using 'something' as a passive background reference. Same goes for the thought of 'something': it goes hand in hand with 'no-thing-ness' as contrasting background/field. But because your conscious focus is on one or the other at the time, you only see that , and not it's contrasting background, or reference you actually are using the quality of nothingness or somethingness.
An example is you looking into the open sky. You don't realize it , but you are seeing the open sky against the background of your own consciousness. There is no other reference against which you see 'sky'.
Would you say that the opposite of 'something' is 'nothing', and vice-versa?
If it was, wouldn't it be "something"?
Man, I wanted to be the first to get into manifolds. Way to unify algebraic topology, differential geometry, mathematical physics, and steal my would-be example. What's left? Stereopgraphic projections? Sphere bundles? Not really.
Ground.
You asked is they can exist, not if I can possibly discern their existence. Do you identify the set of things that exist with the set of things we can possibly observe?
Ciao
- viole
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
godnotgod
Thou art That
Which, in this case, is consciousness.
godnotgod
Thou art That
I asked:
"Can a sphere, such as a planet, exist without its surrounding space?"
...to which you basically said 'yes'.
So, without a sphere's surrounding space, there still exists a sphere, correct?
Just want to be clear on your meaning, OK?
godnotgod
Thou art That
Surely it's "Cosmic Consciousness".
Consciousness IS No-thing-ness. Neither is bound by Time or Space.
Sees
Dragonslayer
I used to think it was clever to use an extreme to actually mean it's opposite extreme...but now it just seems like a redundant waste of words and time. Is it me?
Alternatively, it's just the ground. Earth. Land. Etc.
Yes, basically. Spacetime is also a surface (not a sphere, though) that exists without a surrounding space, probably.
Ciao
- viole
"Everyone knows what a curve is, until he has studied enough mathematics to become confused through the countless number of possible exceptions"
-Klein
godnotgod
Thou art That
I used to think it was clever to use an extreme to actually mean it's opposite extreme...but now it just seems like a redundant waste of words and time. Is it me?
An extreme is defined by its relationship to that which is relatively considered to not be extreme.
godnotgod
Thou art That
When looking up into the sky without having the ground in one's field of vision, we still see the sky.
Generally speaking, we don't see this.