Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
That might have made sense before you ungrateful colonials kicked out the British, but now....?
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Crazy gun laws
- Thread starter SkylarHunter
- Start date
That might have made sense before you ungrateful colonials kicked out the British, but now....?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Not specific enough.
That's must movie mythology, rather than actual history.I struggle to understand it too, I guess it's a cultural thing going back to the wild west or something.
It goes back to before the country even was one.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
What?You mean the Lone Ranger wasn't a real person?
He wasn't?
At least Tonto was.
He has to be!
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
And Trigger (the horse) will never forgive you for that!Was Tonto the horse or the Indian, I always get confused.
(Only Tonto swings that way.)
allfoak
Alchemist
That might have made sense before you ungrateful colonials kicked out the British, but now....?
Freedom is not free.
It must be defended from those that would otherwise take it from us.
This is a moment in time when we are watching a free nation fall.
If we do not defend it, we will lose our basic human rights, many of which are being assaulted as we speak.
Freedom is not gained easily.
It is more easily defended once gained.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
You mean the Lone Ranger wasn't a real person?
They broke up when the Lone Ranger found out "kemo sabe" meant son of a b****h in Apache.
It seems his real message isn't religious genocide, but his exhortation is dangerous nonetheless.
Self-defense is not about killing members of certain groups before they do anything violent.
esmith
Veteran Member
Some are asking why firearm ownership here in the US is so prevalent whereas it isn't in other countries throughout the world. I have a couple of thoughts on the issue that could be discussed.
1. Here in the US we have a cultural history of hunting. There are vast areas throughout the country that is public land and if you have a hunting license you are allowed to hunt on them. The wildlife does not belong to the royalty as it did in certain countries. Hunting was and still is a means of supplying food for ones family. In some states subsistence hunting and fishing allows the taking of wildlife outside of the normal "hunting and fishing seasons". When I was growing up hunting and fishing played a major part of providing meat for the family. I and all of the kids I grew up with were familiar with firearms and were expected to know how to use one (yes safety was stressed). Organizations like the Scouts, both boys and girls) had programs that taught how to shoot if they so desired (and most did). Those ideas were passed down from generation to generation.
2. This is a proud nation and we value our rights, (not saying that other countries aren't and don't) and firearms are one of those rights. I suspect that many people see the attack on firearms as a personal attack against their "freedom" or rights. Look at the outcry against the gathering of phone numbers by the government even though by restricting that policy might affect their security. It's just the idea that we don't want the government to be the "big brother" (however, that idea is slowly eroding)
3. We as a nation have a larger amount of disposable income than the majority of, if not all, the countries of the world (and again that seems to be decreasing). Look at all of the "toys" that we have, and firearms are one of the items we desire.
4. To some of us a firearm is a piece of art and a fine piece of machinery and being able to own and use one is just something we want to do. I and my wife are out to the local shooting range fairly regularly, when we are not involved with our ATV club, for our "recreational time". . Shooting and "shooting the bull" with other enthusiasts is a welcome repast. If I could afford more firearms I would buy them and this includes what some consider "assault rifles" and I consider just another firearm.
So, if you can't understand why we "Americans" have a "gun" culture it is probably because you were not exposed to firearms like the majority of us here. That's just the way it is. Another point enacting more restrictive firearm laws will not reduce the incidents of firearm related incidents. Firearm incidents are on the decline here and it isn't because of more restrictive laws since there hasn't been any more restrictive laws passed. Oh, by the way, for those of you here in the US that want more restrictive firearms laws let me point out that myself and the million of other like minded individuals will fight you at every turn. Through elections and the courts of course, we are a peace loving group that value our "Rights".
1. Here in the US we have a cultural history of hunting. There are vast areas throughout the country that is public land and if you have a hunting license you are allowed to hunt on them. The wildlife does not belong to the royalty as it did in certain countries. Hunting was and still is a means of supplying food for ones family. In some states subsistence hunting and fishing allows the taking of wildlife outside of the normal "hunting and fishing seasons". When I was growing up hunting and fishing played a major part of providing meat for the family. I and all of the kids I grew up with were familiar with firearms and were expected to know how to use one (yes safety was stressed). Organizations like the Scouts, both boys and girls) had programs that taught how to shoot if they so desired (and most did). Those ideas were passed down from generation to generation.
2. This is a proud nation and we value our rights, (not saying that other countries aren't and don't) and firearms are one of those rights. I suspect that many people see the attack on firearms as a personal attack against their "freedom" or rights. Look at the outcry against the gathering of phone numbers by the government even though by restricting that policy might affect their security. It's just the idea that we don't want the government to be the "big brother" (however, that idea is slowly eroding)
3. We as a nation have a larger amount of disposable income than the majority of, if not all, the countries of the world (and again that seems to be decreasing). Look at all of the "toys" that we have, and firearms are one of the items we desire.
4. To some of us a firearm is a piece of art and a fine piece of machinery and being able to own and use one is just something we want to do. I and my wife are out to the local shooting range fairly regularly, when we are not involved with our ATV club, for our "recreational time". . Shooting and "shooting the bull" with other enthusiasts is a welcome repast. If I could afford more firearms I would buy them and this includes what some consider "assault rifles" and I consider just another firearm.
So, if you can't understand why we "Americans" have a "gun" culture it is probably because you were not exposed to firearms like the majority of us here. That's just the way it is. Another point enacting more restrictive firearm laws will not reduce the incidents of firearm related incidents. Firearm incidents are on the decline here and it isn't because of more restrictive laws since there hasn't been any more restrictive laws passed. Oh, by the way, for those of you here in the US that want more restrictive firearms laws let me point out that myself and the million of other like minded individuals will fight you at every turn. Through elections and the courts of course, we are a peace loving group that value our "Rights".
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Even in the wild west there were many restrictions on guns. Carrying concealed guns was a no-no, and a lot of towns and cities had laws where guns had to be forfeited to the sheriff until you were ready to leave town.I struggle to understand it too, I guess it's a cultural thing going back to the wild west or something.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=wild..._AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=wild+west+guns+prohibited
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...sguided-view-of-gun-control-in-the-wild-west/
http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2015/09/27/The-not-so-Wild-West/stories/201509270106
Last edited:
Too bad.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yep, and you can access that info on-line.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
There's a far greater danger from members of our own family/friends with both accidental shootings and shootings out of family disputes and suicides. If one has the intent of keeping a loaded gun in the house, they should really think twice about that, but if they do still feel they need such a gun, the police do recommend a shotgun.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
The big problem, as I see it, is that we should own a much higher percentage of firearms.
That recommendation varies with which cop you talk too, & with one's personal skill.
My family finds handguns to be the better choice.
This illustrates the fallacy of citing (uncited) statistics, ie, they're applicability is not addressed.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Most of the officers I brought in strongly recommended not keeping a loaded gun in the house for reasons discussed ad nauseum, but when asked about which gun would be preferable if one decided to do so, all or most of them (?) suggested a shotgun because of the issue of both accuracy and also more wide-spread coverage.
BTW, I might have already covered this on this thread, but one of my cousins, who was a Detroit politic officer for over 30 years, ended up doing a 180 on this after a while, and that was mostly based on what he all too often ran into, namely shooting accidents and family disputes gone violent.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Seems reasonable.