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Creationist article!

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
Firstly I dont attack people but have been insulted by others rather.

Liar. You're a troll, and not a very good one at that. (Not that other people haven't insulted you, but my point is that you have definitely attacked them, and not even attempted to provide a rational argument back.)
Im being run off the site now....Losing ur heads guys!!
As for the egg....claiming the egg came first proves nothing....The chicken and the egg is all about trying to enlighten athiests as to how human babies cannot rear themselves....thus a creator (GOD)

Its obvious this site proves nothing....U athiests just hurl insults when u cant answer threads....

Its obvious ur just evading the question....uve not got the answer and ur too stubborn to admit there might be a GOD.....and u (out of ur ignorance) just try to hurl insults!


As for A+B+C.....there is no B.....there is a Creator....GOD
Ok, I tried being nice. I see now that you're just trying to aggravate people. With no "B," you can't reach "C" honestly. "B" is the difference between a philosophical argument and dogmatic nonsense. "B" is called Reasoning, and Reason is the closest thing to divinity that we can demonstrate the existence of. Without Reason, you've lost touch with Reality, and without Reality, you've lost your connection with other humans. Without that contact...
Er, I'm going off on a tangent here... :D

Point is, you either can't or won't explain how human babies not being able to rear themselves translates to there being a creator god (or why the chicken and egg metaphor was necessary and why you would insult people for not getting such a tangential metaphor), and with your constant self-victimizing, it's pretty obvious you're just here to troll people.



Wow, and all this time I thought "not even wrong" was just an abstract concept, not something that could actually occur...
 

McBell

Unbound
Im being run off the site now....Losing ur heads guys!!
As for the egg....claiming the egg came first proves nothing....The chicken and the egg is all about trying to enlighten athiests as to how human babies cannot rear themselves....thus a creator (GOD)
Yet you are the one completely ignoring the fact that your argument is an epic fail of uber proportions.
 

Ubjon

Member
I was researching why certain people don't think evolution is correct, in doing so I came across this website.

Wonderings About Evolution

There are so many facts wrong with this article that it actually made me quite angry reading it.

I just wondered if there are any creationists who actually agree with this article? Or if this is just another misinformed daft attempt to disregard evolution and all the progress scientists have made over the past 150 years?

As always all thoughts welcome...

Confirmation bias : hamster :

That said I've met several so called skeptical evolutionist types who are just are guilty of falling for it as creationists are. Show them something which is clear nonsense but says it supports evolution and they''ll argue to the ends of the world to defend it from criticism.

Alas this is why science is best left to the scientists and scientifically literate.
 

McBell

Unbound
Liar. You're a troll, and not a very good one at that. (Not that other people haven't insulted you, but my point is that you have definitely attacked them, and not even attempted to provide a rational argument back.)
You hit the nail right on the head.

Point is, you either can't or won't explain how human babies not being able to rear themselves translates to there being a creator god (or why the chicken and egg metaphor was necessary and why you would insult people for not getting such a tangential metaphor), and with your constant self-victimizing, it's pretty obvious you're just here to troll people.

Based upon his other posts I am going to have to go with can't.

Wow, and all this time I thought "not even wrong" was just an abstract concept, not something that could actually occur...
The really sad part is that he most likely has no idea what you are talking.
But I bet it won't even slow him down.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Its obvious u cant answer the question!

I have a question. ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!

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Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Its obvious ur just evading the question....uve not got the answer and ur too stubborn to admit there might be a GOD.....and u (out of ur ignorance) just try to hurl insults!

I'm usually willing to spend time educating creationists about the basics of science, but I think this one is is too far behind to remediate. gateway: how old are you? Have you ever taken a science class of any kind?

Let's see if I can give you a metaphor that would help. It's kind of as if someone had said, "Well, if Jesus is God, how come slinkies can go down stairs? Huh?" I would really have to teach you too much science to get you to see that your question makes no sense and has nothing to with evolution.

Here's another way to look at it: Do you think all Biologists are retarded?
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Im being run off the site now....Losing ur heads guys!!
As for the egg....claiming the egg came first proves nothing....The chicken and the egg is all about trying to enlighten athiests as to how human babies cannot rear themselves....thus a creator (GOD)

Say wut?
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
I never mentioned Hebrew characters or the Bible....ur just evading the question...How could human babies rear themselves.....this is obviously what athiests must believe out of their ignorance....THERE IS A GOD!

There is no logical connection between whether human babies can rear themselves, whether there is a God, and whether the Theory of Evolution is correct. They are three unrelated statements.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Firstly I dont attack people but have been insulted by others rather.
As for A+B+C.....there is no B.....there is a Creator....GOD

If there is no B, then there is no connection between A and C. So, basically, your post becomes:

There is God.

Is that the best argument you have?
 

KnightOwl

Member
What I find interesting is that people get all wrapped up in very scientific and deep philosophical debates when it comes to debating the Abrahamic God. I can't for the life of me figure out why all that is necessary -- why anybody who is not an idiot doesn't just look at the basics and get that religion at least, if not God sans religion, is mythology. Frankly this is one of the reasons I like talking to religious people about their religion. I'm fascinated by their ability to overlook obvious signposts.

Frankly, I'm not the most educated guy in the room when it comes to science. Yes, I took chemistry and basic physics in college and biology in high school, but I never really got into things like the laws of thermodynamics. If they were taught, I certainly didn't find them interesting enough to pay much attention. I just recently learned about why we don't know what came before the Big Bang as I am part way through "A Brief History of Time."

But my ignorance about science doesn't preclude me from applying basic logic and common sense to what I see and conclude that what I learned in Sunday school doesn't hold water. There are just so many contradictions for instance. According to Genesis, God created man in his own image.
Yet in order to explain away all the "how could he have done this?" questions, we are told that God is outside our understanding or that to view God would be too much for our senses to handle. That does not sound like any human I've heard about or met.

In order for the creation stories in Genesis to make any sense at all, one has to jump through a series of logical gymnastics that are not described in the Bible. Someone posted a comic earlier about looking for explanations that prove the conclusion instead of looking at the facts and figuring out what the conclusion ought to be.

The thing is, you don't need to know a thing about physics to figure out the Bible is a bunch of fiction mixed with some history (kinda like Geo. Washington and the cherry tree story) if you read it with an open mind.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
What I find interesting is that people get all wrapped up in very scientific and deep philosophical debates when it comes to debating the Abrahamic God. I can't for the life of me figure out why all that is necessary -- why anybody who is not an idiot doesn't just look at the basics and get that religion at least, if not God sans religion, is mythology. Frankly this is one of the reasons I like talking to religious people about their religion. I'm fascinated by their ability to overlook obvious signposts.

Frankly, I'm not the most educated guy in the room when it comes to science. Yes, I took chemistry and basic physics in college and biology in high school, but I never really got into things like the laws of thermodynamics. If they were taught, I certainly didn't find them interesting enough to pay much attention. I just recently learned about why we don't know what came before the Big Bang as I am part way through "A Brief History of Time."

But my ignorance about science doesn't preclude me from applying basic logic and common sense to what I see and conclude that what I learned in Sunday school doesn't hold water. There are just so many contradictions for instance. According to Genesis, God created man in his own image.
Yet in order to explain away all the "how could he have done this?" questions, we are told that God is outside our understanding or that to view God would be too much for our senses to handle. That does not sound like any human I've heard about or met.

In order for the creation stories in Genesis to make any sense at all, one has to jump through a series of logical gymnastics that are not described in the Bible. Someone posted a comic earlier about looking for explanations that prove the conclusion instead of looking at the facts and figuring out what the conclusion ought to be.

The thing is, you don't need to know a thing about physics to figure out the Bible is a bunch of fiction mixed with some history (kinda like Geo. Washington and the cherry tree story) if you read it with an open mind.

great analogy as far as im concerned, fits me to a T

I think religion should have teh reins yanked hard and put the brakes and get humanity back into modern times and reality.

faith stops education on so many levels and closes so many minds
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
How do you know that includes dinosaurs. Because let's face it beasts isn't exactly very descriptive. Do you have anything else.
actually "God" also mentions dinosaurs in the Bible when he says he created the heavens and the earth, and by extension everything on them. :rolleyes:
 
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