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Creationist evidence...

Landerage

Araknor
Each person should take the best decisions he can in life, aslong as there is the slightest chance of God's existence and to gain mercy and forgiveness it's wrong to reject it. After death it would be too late to go back, and if appeared true who would save you from the suffery and misery that is made for those who refuses God's mercy? I think I gave many proves here, but the real question is: If God is there, are you really going to worship him and dedicate your entire life to obey him no matter what ? Indeed God says what means that those who don't beleive, will ask God on judgement day to be sent back to life perhaps they will do better and worship more. But God adds that even if they were sent back, they won't do it. It's in a verse in the Qur'an not sure which one. God is the greatest
 

McBell

Unbound
Each person should take the best decisions he can in life, aslong as there is the slightest chance of God's existence and to gain mercy and forgiveness it's wrong to reject it. After death it would be too late to go back, and if appeared true who would save you from the suffery and misery that is made for those who refuses God's mercy? I think I gave many proves here, but the real question is: If God is there, are you really going to worship him and dedicate your entire life to obey him no matter what ? Indeed God says what means that those who don't beleive, will ask God on judgement day to be sent back to life perhaps they will do better and worship more. But God adds that even if they were sent back, they won't do it. It's in a verse in the Qur'an not sure which one. God is the greatest
Pascal's Wager?
Really?
 

averageJOE

zombie
Each person should take the best decisions he can in life, aslong as there is the slightest chance of God's existence and to gain mercy and forgiveness it's wrong to reject it. After death it would be too late to go back, and if appeared true who would save you from the suffery and misery that is made for those who refuses God's mercy? I think I gave many proves here, but the real question is: If God is there, are you really going to worship him and dedicate your entire life to obey him no matter what ? Indeed God says what means that those who don't beleive, will ask God on judgement day to be sent back to life perhaps they will do better and worship more. But God adds that even if they were sent back, they won't do it. It's in a verse in the Qur'an not sure which one. God is the greatest
Is this supposed to be evidence for creationism? Believing in god "just in case"?
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Each person should take the best decisions he can in life, aslong as there is the slightest chance of God's existence and to gain mercy and forgiveness it's wrong to reject it. After death it would be too late to go back, and if appeared true who would save you from the suffery and misery that is made for those who refuses God's mercy?

Ahh! Yes. When you can't present any evidence for creation you result to scare tactics...:rolleyes:


I think I gave many proves here

You've presented no evidence for creation.


but the real question is: If God is there, are you really going to worship him and dedicate your entire life to obey him no matter what ?

But this has nothing to do with whether there is evidence for creation. We're making the assumption, for your benefit, that your particular god does exist. Now that we got it out of the way is there evidence you can present for your biblical claims for creation?


Indeed God says what means that those who don't beleive, will ask God on judgement day to be sent back to life perhaps they will do better and worship more. But God adds that even if they were sent back, they won't do it. It's in a verse in the Qur'an not sure which one. God is the greatest

All this religious chest thumping is irrelevant to the thread topic.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
So Landerage, if a Hindu told you "The evidence for Vishnu is in the Vedas. If you don't think so, then prove it", would you find that a compelling argument in favor of Hinduism?
 

outhouse

Atheistically
The evidence is the book of God, if your saying that it's not then prove it. Else apply what the book said lol


God is illiterate and has never penned a word anywhere at anytime.

man created and wrote the many books that make up the bible.


that ios not evidence of anything but ancient mans theology.
 

McBell

Unbound
The evidence is the book of God, if your saying that it's not then prove it. Else apply what the book said lol
Really?
So when you have absolutely nothing to support your claim, you want someone else to prove you are full of ****?
Really?

And you do not see anything wrong with that line of thinking?

Really?
 

Landerage

Araknor
God is illiterate and has never penned a word anywhere at anytime.

man created and wrote the many books that make up the bible.


that ios not evidence of anything but ancient mans theology.

I read the Qur'an and no human being can write something so complex in language expression nor know the secrets that were discovered in it. Qur'an combines numbering with expression, something a man can't do unless he have 2 brains
 

Landerage

Araknor
Really?
So when you have absolutely nothing to support your claim, you want someone else to prove you are full of ****?
Really?

And you do not see anything wrong with that line of thinking?

Really?
It's an invitation, apparentely you chose to refuse so thats your choice, and each take responsability of what they chose and not what others chosen.
And the tone in whcih you reply shows anger not sure why. If you think that what your doing is correct, why are you angry ?
 

Landerage

Araknor
Is this supposed to be evidence for creationism? Believing in god "just in case"?
It's not just incase, it starts at "just in case" and when you reach a certain knowledge very close to certainty then it's no longer "just in case" it becomes your whole life then. But what every human should do is approach the first step, and see the outcome later. So "just incase" at the begining, then it grows to something better :rolleyes:
 

averageJOE

zombie
It's not just incase, it starts at "just in case" and when you reach a certain knowledge very close to certainty then it's no longer "just in case" it becomes your whole life then. But what every human should do is approach the first step, and see the outcome later. So "just incase" at the begining, then it grows to something better :rolleyes:
Sooo...this is evidence for creationism? Anyways, your "first step" is nothing more than begining with the conclusion, and "grows to something better" is looking for anything that will loosley back up the conclusion you started with.
 

Landerage

Araknor
Sooo...this is evidence for creationism? Anyways, your "first step" is nothing more than begining with the conclusion, and "grows to something better" is looking for anything that will loosley back up the conclusion you started with.
What ppl mostly do wrong is to refuse to take the first step towards God, and never know what there really is but judging on the exterior aspect of religions. Anyone refusing would suffer great in the afterlife, because there is no excuse not to take that step.
 

averageJOE

zombie
What ppl mostly do wrong is to refuse to take the first step towards God, and never know what there really is but judging on the exterior aspect of religions. Anyone refusing would suffer great in the afterlife, because there is no excuse not to take that step.
So...
First, we assume that god exists.
Second, we assume that it is YOUR god.
Third, we assume that YOUR god created everythinng.
Fourth, we look for facts to back up these assumtions.
And fifth, we assume this is all correct "just in case" so we don't suffer in an assumed afterlife?
Did I get this right?
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
The evidence is the book of God, if your saying that it's not then prove it. Else apply what the book said lol

I read the Qur'an and no human being can write something so complex in language expression nor know the secrets that were discovered in it. Qur'an combines numbering with expression, something a man can't do unless he have 2 brains

and Indeed there are thousands of book of God, but the only one I find authetic currentely is the Qur'an

It's an invitation, apparentely you chose to refuse so thats your choice, and each take responsability of what they chose and not what others chosen.
And the tone in whcih you reply shows anger not sure why. If you think that what your doing is correct, why are you angry ?

It's not just incase, it starts at "just in case" and when you reach a certain knowledge very close to certainty then it's no longer "just in case" it becomes your whole life then. But what every human should do is approach the first step, and see the outcome later. So "just incase" at the begining, then it grows to something better :rolleyes:

What ppl mostly do wrong is to refuse to take the first step towards God, and never know what there really is but judging on the exterior aspect of religions. Anyone refusing would suffer great in the afterlife, because there is no excuse not to take that step.
So, you have absolutly no empirical evidenc in favor of Creationism and have instead turned this into a flawed argument for your particular concept of god and your "holy" book.







Next....
 

McBell

Unbound
It's an invitation, apparentely you chose to refuse so thats your choice, and each take responsability of what they chose and not what others chosen.
And the tone in whcih you reply shows anger not sure why. If you think that what your doing is correct, why are you angry ?
Your transference is showing.

I am not angry, though you are free to continue believing what you want regardless of the truth.

I am actually surprised that you think your god is so stupid that it can be deceived by someone believing "just in case".
Or perhaps you think your deity is so desperate for followers that it will accept any one who believes regardless of the reason for said beliefs?

Though I honestly believe that if your own faith in your beliefs is so weak that you have to use the safety net of "You cannot prove me wrong" then I suspect that you most likely shouldn't be trying to recruit for your deity.

An invitation?
To what exactly?
To believe in your god "just in case"?
Wouldn't it stand to reason that if I am willing to believe in your god "just in case" that I would also be believing in all the other proposed gods "just in case"?

And you think this is a good thing?
You think your deity is just fine that?
 
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