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Archeology.
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Creationists, please provide evidence
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You remind me of the Bible critics who claimed archeology proved there was no such persons as:
Belshazzar
Sargon II
Pontius Pilate
That is, until it did...
waitasec
Veteran Member
what is said about belshazzar, in the bible myth, is still not supported
there is evidence of sargon but nothing of moses
"Pontius Pilate (pronounced /ˈpɒntʃəs ˈpaɪlət/ according to most colloquial standards; Latin: Pontius Pilātus; Greek: Πόντιος Πιλᾶτος, Pontios Pilātos) was the fifth Prefect of the Roman province of Judaea, from 2636 CE.[1][2][3] He is best known as the judge at Jesus' trial and the man who authorized the crucifixion of Jesus. As prefect, he served under Emperor Tiberius.
The sources for Pilate's life are the four canonical gospels, the works of Philo and Josephus, a brief mention by Tacitus, and an inscription known as the Pilate Stone, which confirms his historicity and establishes his title as prefect. ... The discovery of the Pilate Stone in 1961 confirmed his historicity as a Prefect and added to the credence of the Gospel accounts....Some Biblical scholars have argued that the Gospel accounts are not historically accurate, with some believing Pilate was a mythical character."
Pontius Pilate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No evidence for Moses? So Moses doesn't exist but Sargon does, because archeologists have found proof that he did? Is that your reasoning? The Biblical account rings true and is supported indirectly by evidence from archeology. There is no sound reason for rejecting the account. Having said that, Christians do not need nor depend on archeological evidence to have faith in the Bible. The Bible itself gives strong internal evidence of divine inspiration. (Hebrews 11:1) Archeologists and historians have added their testimony regarding the accuracy and truthfulness of many details in the Bible's record.
Regarding Belshazzar, cuneiform documents discovered in Ur contained a prayer of his father Nabonidus for "Bel-sar-usser, my eldest son." Other documents confirmed this is the Belshazzar mentioned in Daniel, to whom Nabonidus entrusted the kingship of Babylon. Over and over again, the Bible has been proved true, and the critics wrong. Just what we would expect from the Book inspired by God. (2 Timothy 3:16,17)
What do you think? Were they following the Christ?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Well, if archeology ever comes across evidence that the Jews were slaves in Egypt, I'll change my position.
If archeology finds evidence that they didn't, will you change yours?
[btw, As a Jew, I was gobstopped to learn this. Shook my whole world.]
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outhouse
Atheistically
some parts are not supported at all, so there is no way you can say "ALL" the biblical accounts ring true and are supported.
none at all, most biblical scholars think he did not exist
im sorry there is actually some historical evidence that the exodus did not happen as described
you dont have any proof of this at all do you???
outhouse
Atheistically
Belshazzar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
this is actually worth reading competely
[since creation/ID still hasnt a shred of evidence]
this is actually worth reading competely
[since creation/ID still hasnt a shred of evidence]
waitasec
Veteran Member
A
angellous_evangellous
Guest
Creationism is right because of the infalliable testimony presented by the experts at AiG.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Only to those who hold faith above evidence.
The Earth is not the center of the Universe.
The Earth is not flat.
The Earth is not "young'. (6,000-10,000 years old)
Old "faiths" and dogma are replaced by new found knowledge based on evidence.
waitasec
Veteran Member
i'm frankly amazed that you put such faith in a bronze age understanding of life and apply it to today
:areyoucra
tarekabdo12
Active Member
[FONT="]Evolution theory was presented as an imaginary hypothesis during the primitive understanding of the world in the 16th century. However, till this day it hasn't been approved by ay scientific research or experiment. In addition all the means used to confirm such hypothesis proved only one thing, it's nullity.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Today, science have proven that it's impossible that live has arisen by itself after discovering that a single cell is actually more sophisticated than a great city.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Alternatively, let us imagine that you leave the tiles scattered about at random on the table after a game of Scrabble. When you return, you see that the tiles now spell out the words: "I have won," and you immediately realize that someone has arranged them in a meaningful sequence. You would never imagine that they had come together by chance and formed those words, in just the same way that you would never imagine the name the flowers spelt out had appeared by chance. In short, if there is a design directed to a particular end somewhere, then you know that there must definitely be a designer behind it. You may not have seen the designer, yet you can be certain of his existence and intention from his work or the traces he leaves behind him.[/FONT]
[FONT="]The human body, on the other hand, possesses a structure trillions of times more complex than the name of a building or the words "I have won," and it is again totally impossible to imagine that this complexity could have come about of its own accord, or by chance. Moreover, the trillions of DNA that billions of living things have possessed for millions of years have been used in the most intelligent manner, written in the most perfect manner with no flaws, and placed in a tiny area invisible to the naked eye. That being the case, there is a Creator who planned and designed the cell and the DNA inside it so perfectly. Claiming the opposite means to go beyond the bounds of reason and attack the very foundations of truth, reason and logic.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Nevertheless, many people, who would readily say that it is impossible for letters to arrange themselves to form even three little words, can listen without objection to the deceit that it was all as a result of "coincidences" that billions of atoms came together one by one in a planned sequence and formed a molecule such as DNA, which performs such a super-complex task. This is just like a hypnotized person's submitting to the hypnotist and accepting by suggestion that he is a door, a tree or a lizard (Haroun yehia)[/FONT]
[FONT="]That is to say that even if we assume that all the necessary nucleotides are present in a medium, and that all the complex molecules and enzymes to combine them were available, the possibility of these nucleotides being arranged in the desired sequence is 1 in 41000, in other words, 1 in 10600. Briefly, the probability of the coincidental formation of the code of an average protein in the human body in DNA by itself is 1 over 1 followed by 600 zeros. This number, which is beyond even being astronomical, means in practice "zero" probability. This means that such a sequence has to be effected under the control and with the knowledge of a wise and conscious power. There is zero probability of it happening by "accident," "chance," or "coincidence."[/FONT]
[FONT="]The second law of thermo- dynamics, which is accepted as one of the basic laws of physics, holds that under normal conditions all systems left on their own will tend to become disordered, dispersed, and corrupted in direct relation to the amount of time that passes. Everything, whether living or not, wears out, deteriorates, decays, disintegrates, and is destroyed.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]Today, science have proven that it's impossible that live has arisen by itself after discovering that a single cell is actually more sophisticated than a great city.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Alternatively, let us imagine that you leave the tiles scattered about at random on the table after a game of Scrabble. When you return, you see that the tiles now spell out the words: "I have won," and you immediately realize that someone has arranged them in a meaningful sequence. You would never imagine that they had come together by chance and formed those words, in just the same way that you would never imagine the name the flowers spelt out had appeared by chance. In short, if there is a design directed to a particular end somewhere, then you know that there must definitely be a designer behind it. You may not have seen the designer, yet you can be certain of his existence and intention from his work or the traces he leaves behind him.[/FONT]
[FONT="]The human body, on the other hand, possesses a structure trillions of times more complex than the name of a building or the words "I have won," and it is again totally impossible to imagine that this complexity could have come about of its own accord, or by chance. Moreover, the trillions of DNA that billions of living things have possessed for millions of years have been used in the most intelligent manner, written in the most perfect manner with no flaws, and placed in a tiny area invisible to the naked eye. That being the case, there is a Creator who planned and designed the cell and the DNA inside it so perfectly. Claiming the opposite means to go beyond the bounds of reason and attack the very foundations of truth, reason and logic.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Nevertheless, many people, who would readily say that it is impossible for letters to arrange themselves to form even three little words, can listen without objection to the deceit that it was all as a result of "coincidences" that billions of atoms came together one by one in a planned sequence and formed a molecule such as DNA, which performs such a super-complex task. This is just like a hypnotized person's submitting to the hypnotist and accepting by suggestion that he is a door, a tree or a lizard (Haroun yehia)[/FONT]
[FONT="]A medium protein might include about 300 amino acids. The DNA gene controlling this would have about 1,000 nucleotides in its chain. Since there are four kinds of nucleotides in a DNA chain, one consisting of 1,000 links could exist in 41000 forms. Using a little algebra (logarithms) we can see that 41000=10600. Ten multiplied by itself 600 times gives the figure 1 followed by 600 zeros! This number is completely beyond our comprehension.[/FONT]
[FONT="]The second law of thermo- dynamics, which is accepted as one of the basic laws of physics, holds that under normal conditions all systems left on their own will tend to become disordered, dispersed, and corrupted in direct relation to the amount of time that passes. Everything, whether living or not, wears out, deteriorates, decays, disintegrates, and is destroyed.[/FONT]
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tarekabdo12
Active Member
you escaped the body to criticize the tail
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PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
[youtube]mcAq9bmCeR0[/youtube]
YouTube - Evolution IS a Blind Watchmaker
YouTube - Evolution IS a Blind Watchmaker
tarekabdo12
Active Member
I'll give an example to make the law more clear, if you have the 206 human bones scattered in a garden in a windy weather. Do you think the wind by itself can collect the bones to form the human skeleton in the correct pattern?
The answer is never, because the forces elicited by the wind would produce more mess than organization as the wind carries no mind.
this also applies to the creation of the DNA and the simple cell-if you want to consider it simple-.
the probability of building of a single DNA of a cell to occur by chance is nearly zero as mentionned above, and when the time required to produce this single DNA by the statistical probability la was calculated , it exceeded many times the earth's age. this carries no doubt that the world was created.
The answer is never, because the forces elicited by the wind would produce more mess than organization as the wind carries no mind.
this also applies to the creation of the DNA and the simple cell-if you want to consider it simple-.
the probability of building of a single DNA of a cell to occur by chance is nearly zero as mentionned above, and when the time required to produce this single DNA by the statistical probability la was calculated , it exceeded many times the earth's age. this carries no doubt that the world was created.