Is there a particular verse/passage/anything similar in your holy text(s) that prevents you from accepting ToE? And is it specifically because of human evolution, or the whole concept of animals evolving altogether?
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Creationists: what prevents you from accepting ToE?
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Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
lol i dont need my bible to tell me my granfather was no monkey!
shawn001
Well-Known Member
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
Jack Handey
Man of Faith
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Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
My gut feeling.
Ah, sounds like you ate some bad shellfish.
Don't worry, it's just food poisoning and doesn't overturn evolutionary theory.
My gut feeling.
Would you say that your gut feeling is influenced by any factors, namely religious belief?
Aren't people entitled to their own opinions, even if they don't make sense to you at all?
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Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Of course. When have I said otherwise?
Me Myself
Back to my username
My gut feeling.
Ever had any problem with gravity your gut feeling?
I remember when the gut feeling of the church made Galileo retract on his findings.
Galileo retracted because he falt his guts alive and wanted to keep it that way
Nowhere, but I thought you were making fun of his opinion.
If that's not how you meant it, my apologies.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
How does making fun of an opinion imply that I think people aren't entitled to them?
Heck, I love that people hold ridiculous opinions. I'd have a lot less to laugh at otherwise.
Shermana
Heretic
The Bat Wing.
And Epigenetics.
and the Bombardier Beetle.
And Cannibinoid receptors.
And both Darwin and Gould's laments about the utter lack of undisputable transitionals.
And Fossil Fraudulence.
And all the unsolvable gaps like whales having their fins develop from hooves.
It's quite a laundry list of objections.
And Epigenetics.
and the Bombardier Beetle.
And Cannibinoid receptors.
And both Darwin and Gould's laments about the utter lack of undisputable transitionals.
And Fossil Fraudulence.
And all the unsolvable gaps like whales having their fins develop from hooves.
It's quite a laundry list of objections.
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just because some one has an opinion does not mean its valid or that it gets special treatment. wrong is wrong even if they have the right to be wrong
sounds like you need to reread some of the articles/
That sums up your issue rather nicely. You just fret over the details. Having unanswered questions doesn't hurt the facts we have. You may as well just say nuclear fusion doesn't exist cause there are unanswered questions.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
its that ToE says all living things descended from a common ancestor which in turn descended from a common ancestor and so on and so on.
The bible is clear that God created different 'kinds' of animals. From that point on im ok with the ToE. I believe the various kinds of animals God created are the starting point for evolution. but i certainly dont believe that life arose undirected and evolved from one initial form of life (which somehow managed to spring to life on its own) to all the life forms we see today.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Do you also accept the Biblical contention that all these kinds were drowned in the big flood except for those saved aboard Noah's ark, hence all the species of plants and animals we have today evolved from those fortunate few?
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
yep, i sure do.
the animals taken on the ark would have been a representative pair from each kind... not every variety of a kind. A kind can multiply into great variety such as we see from the wolf. All varieties of dog are said to have descended from the wolf so its not unreasonable to conclude that it was 2 wolves that Noah took onto the ark....even though there may have been a greater variety of canines available back then just as there are today.
with regard to plants, im pretty sure they recover from a flood without the need to be replanted because seeds can survive for hundreds of years...even thousands of years. In the tombs of egypt, seeds from ancient forms of wheat have been replanted and have grown...so plants could easily have sprung up again without the need for any intervention.
A hundred thousand years ago there were thousands of people if not more. Evolution works with tons of a species and doesn't work as well with just two to a few of each species like the bible thought. The remarkable things about life, like the cells, is that they were dividing without the need for a male female. As we see today those single celled critters are masters at mutation and some like viruses depend on a host cell. The replication was immense, just as the replication happening in our own bodies is in the trillions daily, and we have traced how life has mutated over millions of years.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
if evolution is going to happen the way they describe, it shouldnt be dependent on numbers....it should happen regardless of numbers.