"Crimea is gone. Ukraine must focus on peace, not territory."

[Estro Felino]

This is what transpires from the first analysis by the future President of the United States of America.

Trump ally says Ukraine focus must be peace, not territory

Bryan Lanza tells the BBC there needs to be an "honest conversation" with Kyiv and returning Crimea is not a US priority.

www.bbc.com

Trump is a savior. The savior of Europe.

After all... Ukraine is huge...too huge. UK or Italy are small small countries in comparison, so some territorial concessions are fine. They are still big.

The new Ukraine (without those five regions you see) will join the EU...
we EU will prepare Ukraine to be ready to join the NATO.

As everyone else did in Eastern Europe. First the EU, then the NATO.

 

[Viker]

Trump is a savior. The savior of Europe.

And you're not a socialist. I doubt you're a Christian. What kind of Christian would call any other than Christ a savior?

 

[Viker]

By peace you mean submission to an aggressor.

 

[Viker]

After all... Ukraine is huge...too huge. UK or Italy are small small countries in comparison, so some territorial concessions are fine. They are still big.

Russia is even bigger than Ukraine. Why doesn't Russia give up some territory? Yanno? For the sake of peace?

 

[Estro Felino]

By peace you mean submission to an aggressor.

I posted the map.
Ukraine is still huge without that territory.
And by the way, if they want to join the EU, they are supposed to respect the autonomy of the regions which want to become autonomous.

They must exit the Soviet mentality, if they want to be admitted into the Club of the Western democracies.

 

[Estro Felino]

Russia is even bigger than Ukraine. Why doesn't Russia give up some territory? Yanno? For the sake of peace?

Russia doesn't want to join the EU.

 

[Viker]

How about Siberia? What does Russia need Siberia for?

 

[Viker]

Russia doesn't want to join the EU.

You missed the point. On purpose.

 

[Estro Felino]

You missed the point. On purpose.

Joining the EU is fundamental...
you need to understand this concept. The process is underway.

The Ukrainians want to have the cake and eat it. They must understand that they cannot remain with that old mentality, if they want to sign all the treaties the EU entails.

 

[Estro Felino]

And you're not a socialist. I doubt you're a Christian. What kind of Christian would call any other than Christ a savior?

I didn't capitalize the word savior...for the record.

 

[Viker]

Joining the EU is fundamental...
you need to understand this concept. The process is underway.

The Ukrainians want to have the cake and eat it. They must understand that they cannot remain with that old mentality, if they want to sign all the treaties the EU entails.

My point is this. If giving up one's perceived territory is peaceable then why can't Russia do the same?

 

[Viker]

I didn't capitalize the word savior...for the record.

You don't have to capitalize it. It's obvious you will choose one over the other.

 

[Estro Felino]

My point is this. If giving up one's perceived territory is peaceable then why can't Russia do the same?

Because Russia is not in the EU.

Shall I repeat the concept 100,000 times to be understood?

 

[F1fan]

This is what transpires from the first analysis by the future President of the United States of America.

Trump ally says Ukraine focus must be peace, not territory

Bryan Lanza tells the BBC there needs to be an "honest conversation" with Kyiv and returning Crimea is not a US priority.

www.bbc.com

Trump is a savior. The savior of Europe.

Trump is putin's savior, if anything. putin invaded a smaller nation and couldn't beat them. He shouldn't get any of the territory that is Ukraine.

putin is a war criminal. Trump is an ordinary criminal.

 

[Estro Felino]

Those lands have always been Russian, not Ukrainian.
The great pianist Prokofiev was Russian. Russian surname. He was born in Donbas.

 

[Viker]

Because Russia is not in the EU.

Shall I repeat the concept 100,000 times to be understood?

This isn't about wether or not Russia is in the EU. I simply don't care what Russia decides on that matter. I'm just interested in certain transparent hypocrisy.

For some......."War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery and Ignorance is Strength".

Your idea of peace is to submit to aggression.

 

[Estro Felino]

Trump is Putin's savior, if anything.

Also ours.
We Europeans matter. We deserve to live.

Putin invaded a smaller nation and couldn't beat them. He shouldn't get any of the territory that is Ukraine.

Ukraine lost the war.
The losing side pays the price.

Putin is a war criminal. Trump is an ordinary criminal.

I can imagine.
Whereas what was done to Libya by the dems is forgotten and forgiven.

 

[Viker]

Those lands have always been Russian, not Ukrainian.
The great pianist Prokofiev was Russian. Russian surname. He was born in Donbas.

So? Russia, the peaceable ones, should just walk away. What is the issue here?

 

[Estro Felino]

This isn't about wether or not Russia is in the EU. I simply don't care what Russia decides on that matter. I'm just interested in certain transparent hypocrisy.

For some......."War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery and Ignorance is Strength".

Your idea of peace is to submit to aggression.

With all the money we Europeans gave to them, now Ukrainians must be silent and let us work for peace.

Impudence and ingratitude are not appreciated in Europe.

 

[Viker]

manure, as many dems think

You live in an imaginary reality. Europe is cool. I like the vast majority of Europeans. I really don't know where you get this from.