CSI: What It Means To Be One

[Timothy Bryce]

Then there is the fun stuff...like dealing with a**hole attorneys in court that get knocked off their high horse when they cross examine me.

There's nothing more satisfying in my job than smashing the absolute **** out of police in the courtroom.

4 year old witnesses & victims - no so much.

 

[psychoslice]

I love aspects of my job, such as the science behind forensics. I enjoy being in the lab and getting results off evidence that lead to suspects and/or solid convictions in court.

There are many parts of the job that absolutely suck...carrying around images of dead people in your mind 24/7 can't be good.

Then there is the fun stuff...like dealing with a**hole attorneys in court that get knocked off their high horse when they cross examine me.

For the record, the last sentence was me being arrogant (yet truthful). I'll let you know when I am being egotistical...not ashamed and fear nothing.

Very interesting indeed, I wanted to be a cop in my younger days, after being a baker, but I sadly got shot by some idiot along the highway just out of my town, so I can understand getting those solid convictions, they never found the person who shot me, damn mongrel.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

No one ever requests my posts.
You don't see that inhibiting me!
Why should others be expected to show decorum, restraint, & good judgement.

That's not what I insinuated at all.

It has nothing to do with decorum, restraint, & good judgement and everything to do with the motivation behind posting a ten-point description of one's occupation and characterizing it as somehow more noble than other jobs for no apparent reason at all.

 

[Revoltingest]

That's not what I insinuated at all.

It has nothing to do with decorum, restraint, & good judgement and everything to do with the motivation behind posting a ten-point description of one's occupation and characterizing it as somehow more noble than other jobs for no apparent reason at all.

Pssssst.....I was making a funny.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

Pssssst.....I was making a funny.

Lol fair enough. It's just with the amount of belligerence I've caused over the last 24 hours, it's been even more difficult to discern the jovial from the posts that require my defense. And my ability to execute a sense of humor (it was actually an intended joke of mine which nearly caused me to be banned yesterday).

 

[Revoltingest]

Lol fair enough. It's just with the amount of belligerence I've caused over the last 24 hours, it's been even more difficult to discern the jovial from the posts that require my defense. And my ability to execute a sense of humor (it was actually an intended joke of mine which nearly caused me to be banned yesterday).

I'll let you in on a secret about this place....
Everyone here is funny.
Some of us know it, & some of us don't.
And the posts most lacking in humor are the ones which most inspire it.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

I'll let you in on a secret about this place....
Everyone here is funny.
Some of us know it, & some of us don't.
And the posts most lacking in humor are the ones which most inspire it.

I've picked up on that as a little bit as well. To your credit: you definitely seem to be one of the most in tune with humor in this place.

 

[Revoltingest]

There's nothing more satisfying in my job than smashing the absolute **** out of police in the courtroom.

4 year old witnesses & victims - no so much.

O
M
G
A lawyer?
A lawyer!!!

 

[Timothy Bryce]

O
M
G
A lawyer?
A lawyer!!!

Lol

I'm pretty sure I made my job abundantly clear about a year ago when I was drunk out of my mind and not only gloating about it but using it as some dumb way to validate my obnoxious posts. I wouldn't advise digging said posts up either.

I'm also seriously considering a major career change - the last three years in particular have been seriously detrimental to my health in terms of stress and a culture of [let's say enhanced lifestyle habits] that were both recreational and, seemingly, assisted me professionally.

Actually considering going back to school and gravitating to academia.

 

[Neo Deist]

That's not what I insinuated at all.

It has nothing to do with decorum, restraint, & good judgement and everything to do with the motivation behind posting a ten-point description of one's occupation and characterizing it as somehow more noble than other jobs for no apparent reason at all.

Choosing to be a police officer (or fire fighter, school teacher) is more noble than many other jobs, especially over a lawyer (criminal defense attorney)! Being a CSI is just the icing on top of that cake.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

Choosing to be a police officer (or fire fighter, school teacher) is more noble than many other jobs, especially over a lawyer (criminal defense attorney)! Being a CSI is just the icing on top of that cake.

I really hope you're joking with that comment.

 

[columbus]

I don't disagree with that but did any budding boys in blue request it?

Should I start a new thread and post a ten point description about my occupation and then punctuate it with: "Oh heavens! And that isn't even the half of it!"

Yes.
But do it in the jokes forum so we can use our stockpile of lawyer jokes without getting threatened by the ban fairy.
OK?
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

I really hope you're joking with that comment.

No, there's merit in his claim.
A CSI is someone whose job is to establish the facts, which enable justice to be achieved.
Sure, sure....some are incompetent, & some are corrupt. But just as with most professions,
this is the exception rather than the rule. But a lawyer's job is different in that they're tasked
with advocating for one side, right or wrong. This means that on the order of 50% of the
time, they're tasked with pursuing evil.
And to top this off, they become judges, with the incentive of rigging the system to wring
the maximum of money from clients & taxpayers. So unlike most professions, good lawyers
are the exception rather than the rule.

Good lawyers are where you find them. I was once sued (over $1M) by a guy whose
lawyer was a joy to do business with. Instead of being about fighting, he was about
the best solution. It was the only time I ever enjoyed being sued. He was a prince.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

No, there's merit in his claim.
A CSI is someone whose job is to establish the facts, which enable justice to be achieved.
Sure, sure....some are incompetent, & some are corrupt. But just as with most professions,
this is the exception rather than the rule. But a lawyer's job is different in that they're tasked
with advocating for one side, right or wrong. This means that on the order of 50% of the
time, they're tasked with pursuing evil.
And to top this off, they become judges, with the incentive of rigging the system to wring
the maximum of money from clients & taxpayers. So unlike most professions, good lawyers
are the exception rather than the rule.

By that standard, only lawyers who work pro bono are the good ones.

I actually completely agree with you that the justice system is flawed in that it is almost completely adversarial, which results in a delusional pretentiousness that justice is somehow being served.

There has been a small, albeit ineffectual, progress in the development of alternative dispute resolution over the last few decades. But that route is like David v Goliath where Goliath always seems to crush David; people are very quick to avoid mediation and arbitration when they realize that compromises need to be made - then proceedings rapidly progress towards the courtroom.

One thing I am passionate about, however, is the promotion of Drug Courts which focus on rehabilitation and supervised intervention rather than locking up who I believe to be innocent people.

The drug war needs to end fast. I'm still so bitter about that issue being put to Obama (a simple, mild question about weed) and he smirks and chuckles at it like it's some ridiculous joke.

Man, I can't wait until he's gone.

I hope Trump's fickleness in actually expressing any confirmed policy will allow things to progress in favor of ending the war on drugs. I know it's wishful thinking, but Trump does strike me as someone who likes to put things up his nose (interpret that any way you want; pencils maybe?).

 

[Revoltingest]

By that standard, only lawyers who work pro bono are the good ones.

No.
They can be evil for free.

I actually completely agree with you that the justice system is flawed in that it is almost completely adversarial, which results in a delusional pretentiousness that justice is somehow being served.

Aye, I've seen that firsthand.

There has been a small, albeit ineffectual, progress in the development of alternative dispute resolution over the last few decades. But that route is like David v Goliath where Goliath always seems to crush David; people are very quick to avoid mediation and arbitration when they realize that compromises need to be made - then proceedings rapidly progress towards the courtroom.

I've found that mediation under court rules is utterly worthless due to corruption & incompetence.
Binding arbitration by a professional outside of the court system looks better, but I've no experience with that.

One thing I am passionate about, however, is the promotion of Drug Courts which focus on rehabilitation and supervised intervention rather than locking up who I believe to be innocent people.

I agree wholeheartedly.

The drug war needs to end fast. I'm still so bitter about that issue being put to Obama (a simple, mild question about weed) and he smirks and chuckles at it like it's some ridiculous joke.

Obama has made some progress, albeit in his own weak style.
He is behind the feds backing off on prosecution of MJ related fed crimes in states with liberalized laws.
This particularly matters to me because I have a tenant in the testing biz.

Man, I can't wait until he's gone.

I hope Trump's fickleness in actually expressing any confirmed policy will allow things to progress in favor of ending the war on drugs. I know it's wishful thinking, but Trump does strike me as someone who likes to put things up his nose (interpret that any way you want; pencils maybe?).

I don't know what Trump will do.
I continue to hope for the best.

 

[Neo Deist]

One thing I am passionate about, however, is the promotion of Drug Courts which focus on rehabilitation and supervised intervention rather than locking up who I believe to be innocent people.

The drug war needs to end fast. I'm still so bitter about that issue being put to Obama (a simple, mild question about weed) and he smirks and chuckles at it like it's some ridiculous joke.

Man, I can't wait until he's gone.

WTH...we agree on something! I'm gonna have to work on that...

 

[Timothy Bryce]

WTH...we agree on something! I'm gonna have to work on that...

I actually respect you as a poster. I apologize if I kinda ****ed with your thread. I get internet road rage - I'm working on that.