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Cultural Appropriation

Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Wandering Monk said:
Nope.

IMO, appropriation is asserting that you are ethnically and culturally American Indian when you are not (ala Elizabeth Warren.)
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I guess I could claim to be Norwegian, but,
nobody would believe me.

That would be fake appropriation,
or as we call it in the industry.
"pseudoappropriality".
 
Road Warrior

Road Warrior

Seeking the middle path..
Stevicus said:
Kim Kardashian shapewear drama: Kardashian West drops "Kimono" name from underwear line as Japan accuses her of cultural appropriation - CBS News

I know there has been a thread on this topic in the past, since it appears to be an ongoing issue which crops up from time to time. The latest example is Kim Kardashian's new line of underwear which was named "Kimono." However, after a letter from the mayor of Kyoto asking her to reconsider the name, she has decided to change the name.



Although Kardashian agreed to change the name, the Japanese sent an official from their Patent Office to discuss the situation with the US government.



To be honest, I'm not sure exactly what the complaint is here. Was the clothing line itself disrespectful to Japanese culture, or is it just the choice of the name? Are they claiming that the Japanese would lose money or that it might confuse consumers who are looking to buy an authentic Japanese kimono (yet accidentally buying one of Kardashian's kimonos instead)?

Do cultural symbols only belong to the country they come from? As a counter-example, should Japanese baseball teams or rock-and-roll bands now disband, since they embrace elements of another culture which is not their own? How far can one take this notion of "cultural appropriation"?
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She should tell the Mayor to stop wearing western clothing since it’s Cultural Appropriation of European wear. “Get back into you kimono Mr. Mayor!”
 
Politesse

Politesse

Amor Vincit Omnia
Right-wingers need to stop being triggered by every damn thing. No one said anything about cultural appropriation until the media got hold of the story. What actually happened is that the mayor made a polite request to not use an important cultural symbol to sell underwear, and Kardashian, upon reviewing the request, vountarily acquiesced to this perfectly reasonable request and changed the name. A civil and transparent exchange in which no one's rights were violated. So calm down and stop frothing at the mouth whenever the powers that be tell you to.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Politesse said:
Right-wingers need to stop being triggered by every damn thing. No one said anything about cultural appropriation until the media got hold of the story. What actually happened is that the mayor made a polite request to not use an important cultural symbol to sell underwear, and Kardashian, upon reviewing the request, vountarily acquiesced to this perfectly reasonable request and changed the name. A civil and transparent exchange in which no one's rights were violated. So calm down and stop frothing at the mouth whenever the powers that be tell you to.
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Is this just a case of political dyslexia?

Goodness gracious, it is the lefties who are making
"appropriation" an issue!

Unless, that is, Reed College is actually
run by Rush? :D

The Surprising Revolt at the Most Liberal College in the Country
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Politesse said:
Ah, so you aspire to the same level of political maturity as do radical college students.
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How long did you have to think to come up with
something that silly?

Your complaint is that right wingers get "triggered"
by "cultural appropriation".

I merely pointed out that it is an "issue" dear to
the left wing.

Its a non issue to me.
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
Estro Felino said:
Same thing as pepperoni.
Americans invented an Italian-like salami and called it pepperoni, but it is not Italian. Since peperoni means bell peppers in Italian...
We have our own brands of true Italian salami with protected denomination.
Pepperoni is advertised as Italian product...but it is not.
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It was probably Italian-Americans that did that, however. That often happened with traditional foods when the people who made and ate them immigrated to a new place. In Chicago the Thai restaurants had two menus. One for non-Thai patrons, and one for Thai patrons, because the traditional Thai food was too spicy for most non-Thai patrons. The Indian restaurants often did the same.
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
Audie said:
How long did you have to think to come up with
something that silly?

Your complaint is that right wingers get "triggered"
by "cultural appropriation".

I merely pointed out that it is an "issue" dear to
the left wing.

Its a non issue to me.
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Yeah, those "lefties" just can't seem to stop caring about how other people feel. What fools they are!
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
PureX said:
Yeah, those "lefties" just can't seem to stop caring about how other people feel. What fools they are!
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As I have said to some few others, if you cannot
post something that is at least vaguely on topic,
relevant, maybe just do not say anything at all?
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
PureX said:
It was probably Italian-Americans that did that, however. That often happened with traditional foods when the people who made and ate them immigrated to a new place. In Chicago the Thai restaurants had two menus. One for non-Thai patrons, and one for Thai patrons, because the traditional Thai food was too spicy for most non-Thai patrons. The Indian restaurants often did the same.
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And Chinese restaurants serve crappy rice to the
round eyes, because they dont know any better.

True!
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Audie said:
Racist. :D
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Well, I was reminded of a time when I was talking to a couple of Asian women (one was Japanese, the other Korean), and I mentioned something about making Rice-A-Roni. One of them said that I should never tell Asians that I eat Rice-A-Roni, as if I committed some major faux pas. But the other one admitted to cooking Rice-A-Roni on occasion.
 
Road Warrior

Road Warrior

Seeking the middle path..
Stevicus said:
Well, I was reminded of a time when I was talking to a couple of Asian women (one was Japanese, the other Korean), and I mentioned something about making Rice-A-Roni. One of them said that I should never tell Asians that I eat Rice-A-Roni, as if I committed some major faux pas. But the other one admitted to cooking Rice-A-Roni on occasion.
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I think that’s more like admitting to eating at MacDonald’s rather cooking healthy, wholesome meals than any racial thing.
 
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