Yea, Idk. I'm wondering if the main motive is that the internet might tempt them away from their faith? That was my (mis)understanding last year, I guess, when all of this happened.
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lol she was polite to me, but I don't get upset when people get passionate about their beliefs.
Upset? Don't you mean self-righteous?lol she was polite to me, but I don't get upset when people get passionate about their beliefs.
ukok102nak
Active Member
:smoke: indeed
my lady
as we love our fellow humans
so the humans must love their own kind
with god or with no god and they must love their surroundings also
now
as it is written
:read:
Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse: therefore choose life, that you may live, you and your seed;
and also
compare the written verse from above
unto this written verse
so as it is written
:read:
Ecclesiastes 2:21
For there is a man whose labor is with wisdom, with knowledge, and with skillfulness; yet he shall leave it for his portion to a man who has not labored for it. This also is vanity and a great evil.
thats why
:read: (with all your heart and
with all your soul)
1 Peter 3:15
But dedicate your lives to Christ as Lord. Always be ready to defend your confidence in God when anyone asks you to explain it. However, make your defense with gentleness and respect.
... . thats a good news indeed
if we may say so . ...
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
my lady
as we love our fellow humans
so the humans must love their own kind
with god or with no god and they must love their surroundings also
now
as it is written
:read:
Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse: therefore choose life, that you may live, you and your seed;
and also
compare the written verse from above
unto this written verse
so as it is written
:read:
Ecclesiastes 2:21
For there is a man whose labor is with wisdom, with knowledge, and with skillfulness; yet he shall leave it for his portion to a man who has not labored for it. This also is vanity and a great evil.
thats why
:read: (with all your heart and
with all your soul)
1 Peter 3:15
But dedicate your lives to Christ as Lord. Always be ready to defend your confidence in God when anyone asks you to explain it. However, make your defense with gentleness and respect.
... . thats a good news indeed
if we may say so . ...
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
I was JW and when I heard (as one) that we were not to go on the internet the reason I understood is that it might drive a believer away from The Truth.Yea, Idk. I'm wondering if the main motive is that the internet might tempt them away from their faith? That was my (mis)understanding last year, I guess, when all of this happened.
I love the truth and even when I had decided that JWs were not the Truth, I feared going on the internet because it really might "drive me away from The Truth".
Aw. That's sad to hear, savagewind. Hopefully, you don't feel that way anymore. Although, the internet can be a tool for positives things, but it can be negative, too. All in how we use it.
@ your comment above about self righteous...lol Yea, that might be a better word.
Thank you. The internet did not drive me away from Jehovah like they say it might.Aw. That's sad to hear, savagewind. Hopefully, you don't feel that way anymore. Although, the internet can be a tool for positives things, but it can be negative, too. All in how we use it.
@ your comment above about self righteous...lol Yea, that might be a better word.
ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> indeed my lady
(i was trying to copy :smoke: used to tell unto those lady out there but copying something isnt good if there is no good and cannot lie
unto someone's heart and soul)
as they say
as it is written
:read:
1 Thessalonians 5:15
Make sure that no one ever pays back one wrong with another wrong. Instead, always try to do what is good for each other and everyone else.
16 Always be joyful.
17 Never stop praying.
18 Whatever happens, give thanks, because it is God's will in Christ Jesus that you do this.
yeah whatever
happens stay focus on everything that is good and cannot lie indeed
and
thats a good news too
if we may say so
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
(i was trying to copy :smoke: used to tell unto those lady out there but copying something isnt good if there is no good and cannot lie
unto someone's heart and soul)
as they say
as it is written
:read:
1 Thessalonians 5:15
Make sure that no one ever pays back one wrong with another wrong. Instead, always try to do what is good for each other and everyone else.
16 Always be joyful.
17 Never stop praying.
18 Whatever happens, give thanks, because it is God's will in Christ Jesus that you do this.
yeah whatever
happens stay focus on everything that is good and cannot lie indeed
and
thats a good news too
if we may say so
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
Philippians 4:8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
Thank you. I think you should keep doing what you are doing.
ukok102nak
Active Member
Philippians 4:8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
Thank you. I think you should keep doing what you are doing.
~;> we are greatful for that
and
to god be all the glory
as they say
so as it is written
:read:
1 Peter 3:8
Finally, everyone must live in harmony, be sympathetic, love each other, have compassion, and be humble.
9 Don't pay people back with evil for the evil they do to you, or ridicule those who ridicule you. Instead, bless them, because you were called to inherit a blessing.
10 "People who want to live a full life and enjoy good days must keep their tongues from saying evil things, and their lips from speaking deceitful things.
11 They must turn away from evil and do good. They must seek peace and pursue it.
12 The Lord's eyes are on those who do what he approves. His ears hear their prayer. The Lord confronts those who do evil."
thats why
as it is written
:read:
Luke 21:8
Jesus said, "Be careful that you are not deceived. Many will come using my name. They will say, 'I am he!' and 'The time is near.' Don't follow them!
. ... another good news
if we may say so ... .
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
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It might be wise to consider the possibility that what was written at Luke 21:8 was that WE should not mislead, as we see it is humanly possible and inevitable that anyone taking the lead will mislead God's flock.
Take head that YE do not lead astray for many (others) will lead the world astray John 3:17
A person of God can not be led astray so Luke 21:8 has to be saying that WE who further The Good News must be careful that we we not lead anyone away from the way, the truth and the life. I think it is also related to the admonition that we never forsake the gathering together. Hebrews 10:25
In bodily form? HOW? I am sure it means gathering together in agreement about Jesus Christ.
In bodily form? HOW? I am sure it means gathering together in agreement about Jesus Christ.
Hi Folks...
lol....let me assure you all first - according to Christ directly - there is no such individual as this "satan" character - there is no "source of evil" that is somehow opposed to my Father - IMPOSSIBLE - as all of Creation flows FROM my Fathers Mind - evil He said comes FROM THE WORLD OF MAN ALONE - their ignorance and Self deciept
As to "jehovahs witnesses" - yes indeed - they ARE directly prohibited form such internet forums a s this - indeed, they are directly prohibited form many many NORMAL activities - some even quite bizarre prohibitions placed upon them....I take this from EX jehovahs witneses who have left and now speak FREELY and openly giving us their truth and version directly from the inside...
http://thejehovahswitnesses.org/things-jehovahs-witnesses-cant-do.php
It wont let me copy and paste - and it s too long to type it all out lol - but check out especially Rule 31 - clearly states such things as public discussion of faith with none believers is PROHIBITED.... Those who post here then are actually going against their faith as decreed by their "elders" - and those others may well have left here first rather than being "found out" and thereby risk being kicked out and shunned totally for their perceived misdeeds....
As I say some of the rules are just - ridiculous - so ridiculous - that out of a world wide population now approaching 7 BILLION - they insist that just a handful - 144000 is it ? - will be able to follow all these rules perfectly - and only these few Souls are the "true chosen elect"... The rest of us - totally screwed they say - and that is why they will not associaite or have intimate dealings with and outright forbid anything that is none JW...
You are posting material, sir, that is false. I'm a JW, so are a few others here....and we post all the time! So "rule 31" is a fabrication. (If this is wrong, possibly the others are, too?)
If "public discussion of faith with none (sic) believers is PROHIBITED", then why do we go from door-to-door?
Regarding the 144,000: how do they tie in with Jesus' prophesy of "the sheep and the goats", @ Matthew 25:31-46? Are they the sheep, the goats, or Christ's brothers? In Revelation 7, one place where the 144,000 are mentioned, who are the Great Multitude, of vs.9?
BTW, there are over 8,000,000 Witnesses in the world; do you really think we teach that only 144,000 will be saved?
If you want reliable information about Jehovah's Witnesses, maybe you should go to their website, www.jw.org .
ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> indeed
thats why someone must atleast have a single though unto what is good and
cannot lie
as it is written
:read:
Matthew 13:52
So Jesus said to them, "That is why every scribe who has become a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a home owner. He brings new and old things out of his treasure chest."
this is something spiritual in this verse
from our perspective thought
if we may say so
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
thats why someone must atleast have a single though unto what is good and
cannot lie
as it is written
:read:
Matthew 13:52
So Jesus said to them, "That is why every scribe who has become a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a home owner. He brings new and old things out of his treasure chest."
this is something spiritual in this verse
from our perspective thought
if we may say so
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
Funny. How many words, magazine, and books have Jehovah's Witnesses produced? It would take a life time or more to investigate what they have to say fully imo. Ecclesiastes 12:12 JW do not take this warning. How are we to suppose they take any warning?
ukok102nak
Active Member
:smoke: by the way
did anyone notice this verse
as it is written
:read:
Revelation of John 7:9
After these things I saw a large crowd from every nation, tribe, people, and language. No one was able to count how many people there were. They were standing in front of the throne and the lamb. They were wearing white robes, holding palm branches in their hands,
. ... just askin
if we may say so ... .
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
did anyone notice this verse
as it is written
:read:
Revelation of John 7:9
After these things I saw a large crowd from every nation, tribe, people, and language. No one was able to count how many people there were. They were standing in front of the throne and the lamb. They were wearing white robes, holding palm branches in their hands,
. ... just askin
if we may say so ... .
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
144,000 become kings and priests of God with Jesus in heaven. They become saviors of all who will obey The True God for God's will be done.
So people who say, "only 144,000 will be saved"? do not know what they are talking about.
So people who say, "only 144,000 will be saved"? do not know what they are talking about.
Revelation 7:9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands......13 Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes--who are they, and where did they come from?" 14 I answered, "Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
Out of has been translated by the Jehovah's Witnesses are THROUGH. But, might it mean, Revelation 18:4. This is a choice to reject the way of the world for God's favor. Everyone who obeys God from Abel on has done it
THEY say it is only about the people of the end. JWs say it means the people who will obey the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
ukok102nak
Active Member
:smoke: as it is written
:read:
Revelation of John 7:4
I heard how many were sealed: 144,000. Those who were sealed were from every tribe of the people of Israel:
5 12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed, 12,000 from the tribe of Reuben, 12,000 from the tribe of Gad,
6 12,000 from the tribe of Asher, 12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali, 12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh,
7 12,000 from the tribe of Simeon, 12,000 from the tribe of Levi, 12,000 from the tribe of Issachar,
8 12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun, 12,000 from the tribe of Joseph, 12,000 from the tribe of Benjamin were sealed.
and
this also
:read: (so as it is written)
Revelation of John 14:1
I looked, and the lamb was standing on Mount Zion. There were 144,000 people with him who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.
2 Then I heard a sound from heaven like the noise of raging water and the noise of loud thunder. The sound I heard was like the music played by harpists.
3 They were singing a new song in front of the throne, the four living creatures, and the leaders. Only the 144,000 people who had been bought on earth could learn the song.
4 These 144,000 virgins are pure. They follow the lamb wherever he goes. They were bought from among humanity as the first ones offered to God and to the lamb.
5 They've never told a lie. They are blameless.
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
:read:
Revelation of John 7:4
I heard how many were sealed: 144,000. Those who were sealed were from every tribe of the people of Israel:
5 12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed, 12,000 from the tribe of Reuben, 12,000 from the tribe of Gad,
6 12,000 from the tribe of Asher, 12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali, 12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh,
7 12,000 from the tribe of Simeon, 12,000 from the tribe of Levi, 12,000 from the tribe of Issachar,
8 12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun, 12,000 from the tribe of Joseph, 12,000 from the tribe of Benjamin were sealed.
and
this also
:read: (so as it is written)
Revelation of John 14:1
I looked, and the lamb was standing on Mount Zion. There were 144,000 people with him who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.
2 Then I heard a sound from heaven like the noise of raging water and the noise of loud thunder. The sound I heard was like the music played by harpists.
3 They were singing a new song in front of the throne, the four living creatures, and the leaders. Only the 144,000 people who had been bought on earth could learn the song.
4 These 144,000 virgins are pure. They follow the lamb wherever he goes. They were bought from among humanity as the first ones offered to God and to the lamb.
5 They've never told a lie. They are blameless.
:ty:
godbless
unto all always
I studied with JW'S for many years. While their was an attraction to the hell-less apolitical support group style format, their isolationism, creating unhealthy echo chambers and creating lots of broken families, their steadfast adherence to young-Earth creationism and as their silly justification for being anti blood products turned me off. It would not be surprising at all to learn the Watchtower or Awake magazine put out a condemnation of using Internet sites that are too 'wordly,' they did already when AOL was at its height.