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Dark side of athiest culture

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
They may not be less capable. That remains to be seen, at least in the USA. Maybe atheist culture is young here? I don't know.
Considering the USA was one of the very first truly secular nations, I'm not sure that's true. America was pretty much founded on secular morality.

Why did atheist culture fail in USSR? I don't know.
I'm not sure what you're defining as "atheist culture", but I'm pretty sure the mass killing, endless internal conflicts and the continuous wars had a bigger impact on the collapse of the USSR than atheism did. Using the USSR as a the standard bearer for "atheist culture" is kind of like using Nazi Germany as the standard bearer for "Catholic culture".
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes, you can let your guard down when amongst Christians, Muslims, and Hindus. It's those atheists that you can never trust, they are just out to get you, I know because I are one, so be warned.
We are not really talking about whether atheism itself is moral or immoral but about whether kids not taught religion behave morally relative to those that are. The objection to religion is that the religious kids aren't 'Truly moral' since they believe they are being watched (or that they can do what they want and be forgiven).
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
We are not really talking about whether atheism itself is moral or immoral but about whether kids not taught religion behave morally relative to those that are.

So you don't know? Because it is sort of obvious that they do.


The objection to religion is that the religious kids aren't 'Truly moral' since they believe they are being watched (or that they can do what they want and be forgiven).

That is a generalization, although there is something to it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
OMG! There is an atheistic culture? Why has no one told me till now.
That's exactly what I was thinking!
(This should worry you.)
We're both out of the loop.

I thought that we each had whatever culture we had,
& that disbelief in gods neither provides nor adds to it..
 

Buttercup

Veteran Member
That's exactly what I was thinking!
(This should worry you.)
We're both out of the loop.

I thought that we each had whatever culture we had,
& that disbelief in gods neither provides nor adds to it..
Are you on the list for bringing the sauteed babies to the barbeque tonight? Or, is it your turn to bring the puppies to char-broil?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Many young atheists of my acquaintance have no scruples about lying, cheating, stealing and stabbing coworkers in the back....

For your impression of today's secular youth to be of more than passing interest, you would need to get hold of some science on the issue. That science would need to show that secular youth lie, cheat, steal, etc at a higher rate than religious youth.

An attempt to explain why secular kids lie, cheat, steal, etc at a higher rate than religious youth is not the equivalent of science showing us that, in fact, they do.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Many young atheists of my acquaintance have no scruples about lying, cheating, stealing and stabbing coworkers in the back, but Christians, Muslims, Jews and Hindus all believe somebody is watching.
And yet, those being watched perpetrate evil deeds too.
 
Majikthise!
The source of your moniker might be the very best candidate for "atheist culture".
Is there a Vrooomfondel here too?

Just popped in to see whats up only to find that scallywags still abound. Thats not necessarily a bad thing through. Im using my phone for posting so lm kinda slow. :p
 

Alceste

Vagabond
I expect the positive impact of believing god loves you is counter-balanced by the negative impact of believing god hates everybody else. See: Israel v. Palestine.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
For your impression of today's secular youth to be of more than passing interest, you would need to get hold of some science on the issue. That science would need to show that secular youth lie, cheat, steal, etc at a higher rate than religious youth.

An attempt to explain why secular kids lie, cheat, steal, etc at a higher rate than religious youth is not the equivalent of science showing us that, in fact, they do.
That is true.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Yes, there is a dark side to atheist culture, and it may be the lack of culture. It may be that people have not figured out a way to teach young people to be moral outside of religion. Many young atheists of my acquaintance have no scruples about lying, cheating, stealing and stabbing coworkers in the back, but Christians, Muslims, Jews and Hindus all believe somebody is watching. Somebody sees everything. There is a kind of shock buffer to keep us behaving as we live out our younger years. As I've mentioned before I already know of two people who converted to evangelical Christianity that grew up secular, and I mean they converted knowing full well that they were joining a cult more or less. They joined because to them there was something wrong with secular culture. They chose to believe and to pass on their beliefs.

Atheists are the least likely minority to commit crimes, your OP is just an attack.
 
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