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Darwin censored by the Turkish government's internet filter

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
You didn't read the link, did you?

no i didn't. i don't take evolutionary talks too serious so i like to joke around about evolution. i do know quite a few things, i have had many evolutionary conversations in the past few years and over time i've had some of that knowledge just gone away coz i just don't find it interesting to be serious about evolution. i apologize if some evolutionists don't like it, but it's just never a topic worth my time. if you find past threads on evolution that i have posted in, i've gone on about pretty much the same stuff, evolution being a joke.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Teaching only creationism and ignoring evolution will put Turkish students at a significant disadvantage. You are aware of the roles that changes in allele frequency, mutation and natural selection in pathogens play in the research and development of vaccines, right?
Is Turkey destined to produce future generations of medical researchers who have no knowledge of these concepts, yet still have to battle against continually-evolving bacteria?
Can you explain how studying only creation myths is of practical benefit in modern society?

in all honesty i am happy that turkey has taken this step, in order for racism to disappear one must sever the roots of racism and those roots i believe are darwinism and his lousy superior white man theories.

you make a good point of the evolving bacteria and the need for updated medicine, but what does the rest of the evolutionary theory have to do with medicine? i don't accept evolution thats obviously clear, but certain things that are taught by evolution are true even though they are few. for example i agree that if you place a man in a hot land to live he will eventually adapt to the hot temperature and same for someone in a cold environment, but i don't believe that any change as significant as the human race evolving into something different altogether through minor changes over long periods of time.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
no i didn't. i don't take evolutionary talks too serious so i like to joke around about evolution.
I think this is an important point that Eselam has made. He isn't really the slightest bit interested in learning anything, as in his world, The Theory of Evolution CANNOT be correct. Realizing this point might save posters on RF considerable time in trying to correct his, for lack of a better word, "thinking".
 

Noaidi

slow walker
I think this is an important point that Eselam has made. He isn't really the slightest bit interested in learning anything, as in his world, The Theory of Evolution CANNOT be correct. Realizing this point might save posters on RF considerable time in trying to correct his, for lack of a better word, "thinking".
I agree.
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
no i didn't. i don't take evolutionary talks too serious so i like to joke around about evolution. i apologize if some evolutionists don't like it, but it's just never a topic worth my time.

So you are, by your own admission, willfully ignorant. Gottcha.
Then I will treat your comments and opinions accordingly.

i don't accept evolution thats obviously clear, but certain things that are taught by evolution are true even though they are few. for example i agree that if you place a man in a hot land to live he will eventually adapt to the hot temperature and same for someone in a cold environment, but i don't believe that any change as significant as the human race evolving into something different altogether through minor changes over long periods of time.

What you choose to believe has no impact on what is true.
 

not nom

Well-Known Member
no i didn't. i don't take evolutionary talks too serious so i like to joke around about evolution.

yet when I said you obviously haven't the faintest clue about it, you seemed to disagree ^^

you can't have it both ways, you know?
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Turkey is working toward joining the EU.
They still have a way to go on several fronts.
This looks like it could develop into another problem for them.
It seems to fit into the human rights bracket.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
I think this is an important point that Eselam has made. He isn't really the slightest bit interested in learning anything, as in his world, The Theory of Evolution CANNOT be correct. Realizing this point might save posters on RF considerable time in trying to correct his, for lack of a better word, "thinking".

it is an important point and it goes both ways. at least i have the guts to be honest about it, we both very well know that i am a creationist and i don't accept evolution, just as you are an evolutionist and do not accept creationism. why the sudden urge to highlight my statement? if you have nothing better to do just say so.
 

Noaidi

slow walker
it is an important point and it goes both ways. at least i have the guts to be honest about it, we both very well know that i am a creationist and i don't accept evolution, just as you are an evolutionist and do not accept creationism. why the sudden urge to highlight my statement? if you have nothing better to do just say so.

I think he highlighted your statement because you said this earlier:

no i didn't. i don't take evolutionary talks too serious so i like to joke around about evolution.

The difference is that we 'evolutionists' DO take creationism very seriously.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
So you are, by your own admission, willfully ignorant. Gottcha.
Then I will treat your comments and opinions accordingly.

being ignorant is one thing and not accepting evolution is a complete different thing. read my post again where it says ' i think evolution is a joke'. although i'm no expert on evolution i have knowledge of certain parts of evolution. no ignorance there mate.

What you choose to believe has no impact on what is true.

but what you choose to believe does, right?
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
yet when I said you obviously haven't the faintest clue about it, you seemed to disagree ^^

you can't have it both ways, you know?

to say that the theory of evolution is a joke has nothing to do with having or not having knowledge of the theory of evolution. as i said before, i may be no expert on evolution but i do know a few things. but i still think it is a joke. it was suggested by a primitive cave man how can people actually take him seriously?
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
being ignorant is one thing and not accepting evolution is a complete different thing. read my post again where it says ' i think evolution is a joke'. although i'm no expert on evolution i have knowledge of certain parts of evolution. no ignorance there mate.

You have displayed extreme levels of ignorance about science in general.
I have pointed the instances out to you before.
Would you like me to do so again?

but what you choose to believe does, right?

Nope, but I'm sure you'd like to think that's my opinion.
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
why because you are an evolutionist? that makes sense doesn't it????:facepalm:

Not because I am an evolutionist (whatever the hell that is), but because certain things are supported by evidence whereas others are not.

The Theory of Evolution is supported by tons of evidence.
Creationism is supported by no evidence at all.

Simple.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
If some one is so ignorant (backward) as to believe in "Creationism"
How can we be expected to respect their view on other matters. ?
 
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