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Darwinism is in trouble from science

Mikemikev

New Member
"The hold of the evolutionary paradigm is so powerful that an idea which is more like a principle of medieval astrology than a serious twentieth century scientific theory has become a reality for evolutionary biologists." (Michael Denton, 1985, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, p. 306).

"When Darwin presented a paper to the Linnean Society in 1858, a Professor Haugton of Dublin remarked, `All that was new was false, and what was true was old.' This, we think, will be the final verdict on the matter, the epitaph on Darwinism" (Fred Hoyle and N. Chandra Wickramasinghe, 1981, Evolution from Space, p. 159).

"Darwinism has never had much appeal for science outside of the English-speaking world, and has never appealed much to the American public (although popular with the U.S. scientific establishment in the past). However, its ascendancy in science, in both Britain and America, has been waning for several decades as its grip has weakened in successive areas: geology; paleontology; embryology; comparative anatomy. Now even geneticists are beginning to have doubts. It is only in mainstream molecular biology and zoology that Darwinism retains serious enthusiastic supporters. As growing numbers of scientists begin to drift away from neo-Darwinist ideas, the revision of Darwinism at the public level is long overdue, and is a process that I believe has already started." Richard Milton, Shattering the Myths of Darwinism (Rochester, Vermont: Park Street Press, 1992, 1997), p. 277.

"The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of evolution" (Gould, Stephen Jay, "Is a new and general theory of evolution emerging?," Paleobiology, Vol. 6, No. 1, January 1980, p.127).

It is a striking, but not much mentioned fact that, though geneticists have been breeding fruit flies for sixty years or more in labs all round the world—flies which produce a new generation every eleven days—they have never yet seen the emergence of a new species or even a new enzyme."—Gordon R. Taylor, The Great Evolution Mystery (1983), p. 48.

Fruit flies refuse to become anything but fruit flies under any circumstances yet devised."—Francis Hitching, The Neck of the Giraffe: Where Darwin Went Wrong (1982), p. 61.

"From different kinds of eyes in contemporary animals, one may guess how the organ evolved. Many primitive animals even a few protists, have light-sensitive spots. In some flatworms (planaria) the pigmented spot becomes a cavity; if the opening is narrowed, it can form a crude image. Covering it with transparent skin could lead to the making of a lens, and so forth. Darwin, troubled by the perfection of the eye, pointed out such gradations (C. Darwin 1964,186-190), yet the existence of viable stages on the way does not explain how it was possible that many very unlikely genes came along in the right order to direct all the details, while at the same time an immensely larger number of continually occurring deleterious mutations were continually being eliminated." (Wesson, Robert G., 1991, Beyond Natural Selection, MIT Press: Cambridge MA, 1994, reprint, p.62).

"Another philosophical question regards the very definition of the word 'selection'. One of the original formulations of selection was 'the survival of the fittest'. If you open a standard textbook of genetics 'fitness' will probably be defined as 'the ability to survive' or something similar. But if the 'fittest' are defined as 'the best survivors' then the idea of natural selection becomes 'the survival of those best at surviving'. So what else is new? If there is no more to Darwinism than a truism then the whole theory rests on very shaky ground." (Leith B., "The Descent of Darwin: A Handbook of Doubts about Darwinism," Collins: London, 1982, p.21)

"I have quoted some voices of dissent coming from biologists in eminent academic positions. There have been many others, just as critical of the orthodox doctrine, though not always as outspoken - and their number is steadily growing. Although these criticisms have made numerous breaches in the walls, the citadel still stands - mainly, as said before, because nobody has a satisfactory alternative to offer. The history of science shows that a well-established theory can take a lot of battering and get itself into a tangle of contradictions - the fourth phase of 'Crisis and Doubt' in the historic cycle and yet still be upheld by the establishment until a breakthrough occurs, initiating a new departure, and the start of a new cycle. But that event is not yet in sight. In the meantime, the educated public continues to believe that Darwin has provided all the relevant answers by the magic formula of random mutation plus natural selection - quite unaware of the fact that random mutations turned out to be irrelevant and natural selection a tautology." (Koestler A., "Janus: A Summing Up," Picador: London, 1983, pp.184-185).

"Even something as complex as the eye has appeared several times; for example, in the squid, the vertebrates, and the arthropods. It's bad enough accounting for the origin of such things once, but the thought of producing them several times according to the modern synthetic theory makes my head swim" (Frank Salisbury, "Doubts About the Modern Synthetic Theory of Evolution," American Biology Teacher, September 1971, p. 338).

How do the Darwinists respond to this? We have evolutionists (all of the above) admitting Darwinism is nonsense.
 

Mikemikev

New Member
In a nutshell, you need better sources.

look up:

Physiology is rocking the foundations of evolutionary biology by dr. denis noble

The 'Modern Synthesis' (Neo-Darwinism) is a mid-twentieth century gene-centric view of evolution, based on random mutations accumulating to produce gradual change through natural selection. Any role of physiological function in influencing genetic inheritance was excluded. The organism became a mere carrier of the real objects of selection: its genes. We now know that genetic change is far from random and often not gradual. Molecular genetics and genome sequencing have deconstructed this unnecessarily restrictive view of evolution in a way that reintroduces physiological function and interactions with the environment as factors influencing the speed and nature of inherited change. Acquired characteristics can be inherited, and in a few but growing number of cases that inheritance has now been shown to be robust for many generations. The twenty-first century can look forward to a new synthesis that will reintegrate physiology with evolutionary biology.

neodarwinism is fraud and has been debunked. dr. denis noble has exposed it. creationism is more reliable.
 

Mikemikev

New Member
Fruit flies refuse to become anything but fruit flies under any circumstances yet devised."—Francis Hitching, The Neck of the Giraffe: Where Darwin Went Wrong (1982), p. 61.

we have never seen flies turn into a dog. nobody has seen an ape turn into a man. this evolution is a hoax. I will not believe it. never. I have studied sciences and genetics for years. only microevolution exists. evolution is political correct it has no actual scientific evidence.
 

Mikemikev

New Member
Richard Milton:

"Darwinism has never had much appeal for science outside of the English-speaking world, and has never appealed much to the American public (although popular with the U.S. scientific establishment in the past). However, its ascendancy in science, in both Britain and America, has been waning for several decades as its grip has weakened in successive areas: geology; paleontology; embryology; comparative anatomy. Now even geneticists are beginning to have doubts. It is only in mainstream molecular biology and zoology that Darwinism retains serious enthusiastic supporters. As growing numbers of scientists begin to drift away from neo-Darwinist ideas, the revision of Darwinism at the public level is long overdue, and is a process that I believe has already started." Richard Milton, Shattering the Myths of Darwinism (Rochester, Vermont: Park Street Press, 1992, 1997), p. 277.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
look up:

Physiology is rocking the foundations of evolutionary biology by dr. denis noble

neodarwinism is fraud and has been debunked. dr. denis noble has exposed it. creationism is more reliable.

What's Doctor Noble's agenda?
What's his doctorate?
 

Mikemikev

New Member
"Neo-Darwinism, which insists on [the slow accrual of mutations by gene-level natural selection], is in a complete funk." Dr. Lynn Margulis

Margulis was a leading expert... yet she exposed the hoax of Darwinism.
 

Enai de a lukal

Well-Known Member
neodarwinism is fraud and has been debunked.
Nothing you have posted here includes anything remotely resembling that conclusion.

dr. denis noble has exposed it.
Doesn't look like it.

creationism is more reliable.
Right, because a pseudo/non-scientific explanation which is contradicted by virtually all of the evidence we are aware of is "more reliable" than one of the most successful theories in the history of science. Derpdiddy derp.
 

Mikemikev

New Member
Prof Eugene Koonin PHD writes:

"The summary of the state of affairs on the 150th anniversary of the Origin is somewhat shocking: in the post-genomic era, all major tenets of the Modern Synthesis are, if not outright overturned. So, not to mince words, the Modern Synthesis is gone. "

explain this.
 

Mikemikev

New Member
"...A tidal wave of new books... threaten to shatter that confidence - titles like Darwin Retried (1971), Macbeth; The Neck of the Giraffe: Where Darwin Went Wrong (1982), Hitching; The Great Evolution Mystery (1983), Taylor; The Bone Peddlers: Selling Evolution (1984), Fix; Darwin Was Wrong - A Study in Probabilities (1984), Cohen; Darwinism: The Refutation of a Myth (1987), Lovtrup; and Adam and Evolution (1984), Pitman. Not one of these books was written from a Christian-apologetic point of view: they are concerned only with scientific truth - as was Sir Ernst Chain when he called evolution 'a fairy tale'." Richard Milton, Shattering the Myths of Darwinism (Rochester, Vermont: Park Street Press, 1992, 1997), p. 12.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
we have never seen flies turn into a dog. nobody has seen an ape turn into a man. this evolution is a hoax. I will not believe it. never. I have studied sciences and genetics for years. only microevolution exists. evolution is political correct it has no actual scientific evidence.

So, once again, we have an evolution denier who displays a complete lack of understanding of even the most basic processes of evolution.

Shocking.
 

Enai de a lukal

Well-Known Member
"Neo-Darwinism, which insists on [the slow accrual of mutations by gene-level natural selection], is in a complete funk." Dr. Lynn Margulis

Margulis was a leading expert... yet she exposed the hoax of Darwinism.

Dr. Margulis has made important contributions to evolutionary theory. She endorses evolutionary theory. She disagrees with certain claims made by certain varieties of Neo-Darwinism- but one of her criticisms of them is that they have mistaken Darwin. In other words, she endorses Darwin in that sense. Its ironic that this comment was from the very quote you cited- you just simply deleted that part. :facepalm:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Let's consider alternatives to evolution.
What experimental tests of ID are there?
If it can't possibly be falsified, then it isn't science.
 

Enai de a lukal

Well-Known Member
"...A tidal wave of new books... threaten to shatter that confidence - titles like Darwin Retried (1971), Macbeth; The Neck of the Giraffe: Where Darwin Went Wrong (1982), Hitching; The Great Evolution Mystery (1983), Taylor; The Bone Peddlers: Selling Evolution (1984), Fix; Darwin Was Wrong - A Study in Probabilities (1984), Cohen; Darwinism: The Refutation of a Myth (1987), Lovtrup; and Adam and Evolution (1984), Pitman. Not one of these books was written from a Christian-apologetic point of view: they are concerned only with scientific truth - as was Sir Ernst Chain when he called evolution 'a fairy tale'." Richard Milton, Shattering the Myths of Darwinism (Rochester, Vermont: Park Street Press, 1992, 1997), p. 12.

"New" books from 1971 and 1984, eh?
 

Mikemikev

New Member
"New" books from 1971 and 1984, eh?

explain dr. denis noble's recent scientific papers and dr. Eugene koonin's admitting the modern synthesis is dead.

Prof Eugene Koonin PHD writes:

"The summary of the state of affairs on the 150th anniversary of the Origin is somewhat shocking: in the post-genomic era, all major tenets of the Modern Synthesis are, if not outright overturned. So, not to mince words, the Modern Synthesis is gone. "
 

Mikemikev

New Member
Dr. Michael R Rose and Todd H Oakley,"The new biology: beyond the Modern Synthesis 2007 said:

"The last third of the 20th Century featured an accumulation of research findings that severely challenged the assumptions of the "Modern Synthesis" which provided the foundations for most biological research during that century. The foundations of that "Modernist" biology had thus largely crumbled by the start of the 21st Century. This in turn raises the question of foundations for biology in the 21st Century".

explain this. u can't! ur own dudes in your own field of evolution came out against the fraud of the modern synthesis.
 

Mikemikev

New Member
Dr. Mae Wan Hoe:

The role of natural selection is itself limited: it cannot adequately explain the diversity of populations or of species; nor can it account for the origin of new species or for major evolutionary change.

more evolutionists debunking evolution. us creationists don't even have to do anything lol
 
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