Darwin's Illusion

[Dan From Smithville]

I never got that far. I'm still baffled why he'd think Sub would know that then in the same post accuse him of dodging the question. If I'd wanted to know I would have googled it myself but somehow I doubt if I'd find the information.

I'm not sure. I wouldn't expect any of us to know that sort of information right off the top of our heads. I know I didn't and still don't. I would think that the cat genome was available, just don't know what comparisons have been done and if that includes chimps and bonobos.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I never got that far. I'm still baffled why he'd think Sub would know that then in the same post accuse him of dodging the question. If I'd wanted to know I would have googled it myself but somehow I doubt if I'd find the information.

Not sure why any of us can't just look it up ourselves and see what is available.

 

[John53]

Not sure why any of us can't just look it up ourselves and see what is available.

I have to rule myself out because I have extreme prejudice against cats. And more importantly I don't care what percentage of DNA cats and chimps share.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I have to rule myself out because I have extreme prejudice against cats. And more importantly I don't car what percentage of DNA cats and chimps share.

Sounds like purrfectly good reasons to me.

 

[Subduction Zone]

One would think at least 92% being we share around 96% of DNA with chimps. But being we are millions of years past chimpanzee's, they may be even closer related to cats.

Sorry but that does not make any sense. We are not evolved any more than either chimps or cats are. You appear to be making the error of assuming a goal for evolution.

 

[We Never Know]

Sorry but that does not make any sense. We are not evolved any more than either chimps or cats are. You appear to be making the error of assuming a goal for evolution.

Did I say evolved more?

"But being we are millions of years past chimpanzees"

Guess what? We are many millions of years past dinosaurs.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Did I say evolved more?

"But being we are millions of years past chimpanzees"

Guess what? We are many millions of years past dinosaurs.

You implied it. Your statement "But being we are millions of years past chimpanzee's," was pure nonsense.

 

[John53]

Did I say evolved more?

"But being we are millions of years past chimpanzees"

Guess what? We are many millions of years past dinosaurs.

It sounded like you were saying chimps stopped evolving

 

[We Never Know]

You implied it. Your statement "But being we are millions of years past chimpanzee's," was pure nonsense.

When did we and chimps split from a common ancestor?
Millions of years ago. We are millions of years past that point.

 

[We Never Know]

I never got that far. I'm still baffled why he'd think Sub would know that then in the same post accuse him of dodging the question. If I'd wanted to know I would have googled it myself but somehow I doubt if I'd find the information.

92%! Well look at that. Dan and I came up with the same answer of 92% off the top of our heads.

 

[Subduction Zone]

When did we and chimps split from a common ancestor?
Millions of years ago. We are millions of years past that point.

So are chimps.. When you are in a hole, quit digging.

 

[Subduction Zone]

92%! Well look at that. Dan and I came up with the same answer of 92% off the top of our heads.

I gave you the 92% answer also. But I have doubts about your reasoning.

 

[We Never Know]

So are chimps.. When you are in a hole, quit digging.

Yet chimps are still chimps. We have undergone several speciation events to get where we are.

 

[We Never Know]

I gave you the 92% answer also. But I have doubts about your reasoning.

What's "my reasoning"?

 

[We Never Know]

It sounded like you were saying chimps stopped evolving

I didn't hear a thing

 

[John53]

I didn't hear a thing

Well that clears it up

 

[YoursTrue]

We share 92% of DNA with cats.

My question to you(which I expect you will avoid) its what % of DNA to chimpanzees share with cats?

The question I have is where are the 1%-2% of dna that is missing between bonobos and humans? I mean what happened if they all came from a "Common Ancestor" leading to the supposedly ape family including humans?

 

[We Never Know]

The question I have is where are the 1%-2% of dna that is missing between bonobos and humans? I mean what happened if they all came from a "Common Ancestor" leading to the supposedly ape family including humans?

Mutations. Everyone is born with 50-100 or more.
Add those up over millions of years.

 

[We Never Know]

Well that clears it up

You seemed to insinuate you "heard it" when you used "sounded like".

Its easy to twist and/or manipulate a post.

If I say its hot as hell.. Am I saying I know how hot hell is or is it a figure of speech?

But I know what you meant(by your figure of speech).

 

[YoursTrue]

That is why I think he comes up all the time. As if science is mired in the past deeds of its great contributors, it can be brought down by bringing those "prophets" down.

Down it tumbles and what the believers believe, whether creationism or something dreamed up in the imagination of some alternative believer, becomes the replacement by default.

It is a strange idea that reveals much about the ignorance of those attacking Darwin.

The problem I have with the theory of evolution is that there is no proof. Now I know that proof and science don't seem to blend too well I have been told, but I personally take vaccinations and believe they help me and otheres to not get seriously ill from some diseases. I am not against science per se.
So while it is possible that different animals can interbreed and lose the essential dna needed to reproduce the same parentage from which they came, eventually removing the possibility they remain the same type of bird, bat, etc., I do not see any viable reason to think (beyond the theoretical possibilities posited by philosophical reasoners) that fish evolved by dna change to become landlubbers by natural selection. Thus, fish of different varieties remain fish, gorillas remain gorillas and of course, humans remain humans. Birds remain birds. I see no reason so far beyond philosophical ideas to think that fish evolved to become landlubbers, for exaample.