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Darwin's Illusion

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Mutations. Everyone is born with 50-100 or more.
Add those up over millions of years.
The problem is that gorillas remain gorillas, monkeys remain monkeys even of different varieties, but that "common ancestor" got lost somewhere in the mix. It just disappeared I guess, according to scientific proposals considering the matter.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
But I know what you meant(by your figure of speech).

Yet failed to address it.

And you still haven't answered my earlier question so I'll just assume that my original thought is correct and you're just here to troll one particular member.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Mutations. Everyone is born with 50-100 or more.
Add those up over millions of years.
And that 1.5 or 2% got lost somewhere, while the idea is that all the apes come from a Common Ancestor, there is no proof that they did. I'm not saying they didn't -- but the intermittent dna linkage just isn't there.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
The problem I have with the theory of evolution is that there is no proof. Now I know that proof and science don't seem to blend too well I have been told, but I personally take vaccinations and believe they help me and otheres to not get seriously ill from some diseases. I am not against science per se.
So while it is possible that different animals can interbreed and lose the essential dna needed to reproduce the same parentage from which they came, eventually removing the possibility they remain the same type of bird, bat, etc., I do not see any viable reason to think (beyond the theoretical possibilities posited by philosophical reasoners) that fish evolved by dna change to become landlubbers by natural selection. Thus, fish of different varieties remain fish, gorillas remain gorillas and of course, humans remain humans. Birds remain birds. I see no reason so far beyond philosophical ideas to think that fish evolved to become landlubbers, for exaample.

In a sense if you go back far enough we are all fish(or other aquatic species) being aquatic species evolved to land to become land species.

Heck go back far enough and we are all a bacteria. We still depend on bacteria for survival.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
And that 1.5 or 2% got lost somewhere, while the idea is that all the apes come from a Common Ancestor, there is no proof that they did. I'm not saying they didn't -- but the intermittent dna linkage just isn't there.

You lost some from your parents, they lost some from theirs, etc etc. Little things add up over time.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You lost some from your parents, they lost some from theirs, etc etc. Little things add up over time.
Again -- there is absolutely no proof that there is a common ancestor among or between the ones considered in the ape family. There is no proof that the various types such as gorillas and chimpanzees came from a common ancestor. If there was I'd accept it.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Again -- there is absolutely no proof that there is a common ancestor among or between the ones considered in the ape family. There is no proof that the various types such as gorillas and chimpanzees came from a common ancestor. If there was I'd accept it.

"there is absolutely no proof that there is a common ancestor"

Ok I see. It hasn't been shown by evidence so evidently it doesn't exist right?

Now apply that same thinking to a god.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
That makes zero sense but whatever

Hmmm...

"Its important to you, not me.
So I won't search for it if you cant re-ask it."

IOW...

Its important to you because you keep bringing it up.

Its not important to me, so I won't search for it if you can't re-ask it.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Hmmm...

"Its important to you, not me.
So I won't search for it if you cant re-ask it."

IOW...

Its important to you because you keep bringing it up.

Its not important to me, so won't search for it if you can't re-ask it.

I told you I'll just go with my original thought that you were trolling a forum member. Your avoidance confirms it for me so I'm content with the answer.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I told you I'll just go with my original thought that you were trolling a forum member. Your avoidance confirms it for me so I'm content with the answer.

And I will go with my thought. Your question isn't important(or you would ask it again) and you may not even remember what it was.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
And I will stick with my policy of not catering to trolls, you will probably just avoid it again. So I guess everyone is happy.

"you will probably just avoid it again"

That's your assumption(which you are entitled to). And IMO that shows its not important to you. So that leaves two choices...

1. Ask it again
2. Forget it

Its all up to you.

As for trolls.. As I see it that's what you are doing to me... Trolling. You could be a bot that doesn't know what you asked.
 
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John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
"you will probably just avoid it again"

That's your assumption(which you are entitled to). And IMO that shows its not important to you. So that leaves two choices...

1. Ask it again
2. Forget it

Its all up to you.

But this is so much fun and why would I bother doing your work for you just so you can avoid it again. You've proved your agenda to me so like I said everyone is happy.
 
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