Darwin's Theory of Evolution and Darwinism Has Led To The Holocaust And Genocide Of Blacks

[Revoltingest]

This thread isn't for anyone really. This is a boring, transparent an attempt at using personal assassination to undermine evolutionary theory by attacking sociopolitical stances instead of the science of ToE.
Futher, eugenics doesn't make sense in the context of ToE since 'fitness' is not actually any concrete list of any trait or series of traits. If anything seems to have enabled humans to succeed it's variability, which enables greater chance of adaptability, and social empathy as people without physical fitness or outside racial majority can and have contributed significantly to advancement of science, technology, invention et all. Therefore, ToE is antithetical to eugenics and anyone who says otherwise and who is actually interested in discussing evolution, rather than interested in making an intellectually lazy pathway for 'god did it' has a lot more explaining to do.

You're clearly wrong.
This is demonstrable because genocide & slavery simply didn't exist
until Darwin advocated them by inventing god hating science.

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

This thread is not for the faint of heart. I can't believe that scientific racism promoted itself to being acceptable from false scientific ideas proposed by Charles Darwin to social Darwinism and Eugenics to systematic extermination by the Nazis and Planned Parenthood.

Briefly, we know that Darwin's ideas of natural selection started with his book, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." In it, Darwin proposed that animal and plant populations evolve throughout the course of several generations by the mechanism of natural selection. He proposed that the diversity of life came about through pressures on different animal and plant species through the survival of the fittest mechanisms (term adopted from fifth printing) and common descent. Darwin meant by "fittest," those species that could best pass along their genes to future generations. In Victorian England, Darwin's society had already held the belief that some races were superior to others based on the science of the day. They also had black slaves imported to do their menial work. These slaves were not treated as people, but considered property. The science was scientific racism which a few scientists theorized that blacks and aboriginies were lesser breeds of humans or savages. In Darwin's second book, The Descent of Man, "that "the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world".

Darwin's ideas were taken by social Darwinists and promoted to eradicate the weak and unfit. Social Darwinism "states that the strongest or fittest should survive and flourish in society, while the weak and unfit should be allowed to die."

Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton, was a strong proponent "of the role of heredity in variations between individuals and groups, his championing of "nature" versus "nurture" was developed in the 1869 book 'Hereditary Genius' and then via the study of twins. In 1883, he coined the word "eugenics", and advocated strategies for improving human stock to give "the more suitable races or strains of blood" a better chance of success. His idea of "negative eugenics", designed to restrict the reproduction of less "fit" populations, would eventually feed into the policies of sterilisation followed by many from Nazi Germany to Social Democratic Sweden."

Did Charles Darwin believe in racial inequality?

"But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing."

The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

In the United States, the Civil War started fueled by the ideas of equality of humans. One of the reasons was the South wanted to keep slavery while the expansion to the western new territories by the Northerners did not want slavery (due to victory in the Mexican War 1846-48). It became the war over States Rights vs the Federal Government. It was led by President Abraham Lincoln and his Emancipation Proclamation and the 13th Amendment to eradicate slavery. The 14th Amendment after the war started civil rights for all.

However, after the war, the idea of eugenics led to the founding of Planned Parenthood by Margaret Sanger. She "believed she was ‘working in accord with the universal law of evolution’. She maintained that the brains of Australian Aborigines were only one step more evolved than chimpanzees and just under blacks, Jews and Italians. When arguing for eugenics, Sanger quoted Darwin as an authority when discussing ‘natural checks’ of the population, such as war, which helped to reduce the population. Her magazine even argued for ‘state-sponsored sterilization programs’, forcibly sterilizing the ‘less capable’. She won many academics and scientists to her cause, including Harvard University sociologists E. M. East, University of Michigan President Clarence C. Little and Johns Hopkins psychiatrist Alfred Meyer."

Margaret Sanger Darwinian eugenicist - creation.com

‘"Civil rights’ doesn’t mean anything without a right to life!" declared Hunter. He and the other marchers were protesting the disproportionately high number of abortions in the black community. The high number is no accident. Many Americans–black and white–are unaware of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger’s Negro Project. Sanger created this program in 1939, after the organization changed its name from the American Birth Control League (ABCL) to the Birth Control Federation of America (BCFA).

The aim of the program was to restrict–many believe exterminate–the black population. Under the pretense of "better health" and "family planning," Sanger cleverly implemented her plan. What’s more shocking is Sanger’s beguilement of black America’s créme de la créme–those prominent, well educated and well-to-do–into executing her scheme. Some within the black elite saw birth control as a means to attain economic empowerment, elevate the race and garner the respect of whites.

The Negro Project has had lasting repercussions in the black community: "We have become victims of genocide by our own hands," cried Hunter at the "Say So" march."

BlackGenocide.org | The Negro Project

Thus, Darwin's ToE ideas led to the Holocaust and black genocide.

Social Darwinism has only the name "Darwin" in common with evolution.

1). Using evolution as a rationalization for eugenics or genocide is (obviously) evil because it tramples on the rights of individuals.

2). The politically correct overreaction to [1).] has stifled any scientific investigation into what actual differences there are between the races/sexes.

As usual, people are scared of the painful truth.

 

[columbus]

Social Darwinism has only the name "Darwin" in common with evolution.

Similarly, lots of Christians don't think that the term "Christian" belongs in the name "Christian Identity Movement ". Because most Christians have appropriated secular humanist ethics and don't want to be associated with the bigotry of the good old days.
Tom

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Thus, Darwin's ToE ideas led to the Holocaust and black genocide.

Well, crap, you used the word "thus." I thought I was reading a steaming pile of cognitive bias, logical fallacies, and laughably ridiculous rhetoric. But, apparently, since you used the word "thus," I was actually reading what was supposed to be some kind of serious argument.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Many Americans–black and white–are unaware of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger’s Negro Project. Sanger created this program in 1939, after the organization changed its name from the American Birth Control League (ABCL) to the Birth Control Federation of America (BCFA).

The aim of the program was to restrict–many believe exterminate–the black population.

A massive misrepresentation. Concerns voiced by Sanger while bringing education and assistance to black communities was about just this sort of misunderstanding and jumping-the-gun to the assumption of social genocide.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

Wow, I come to this site and see this post.

I'm not sure wether I should be scared or excited. Probably feeling both to be honest.

 

[columbus]

Wow, I come to this site and see this post.

I'm not sure wether I should be scared or excited. Probably feeling both to be honest.

Welcome to RF CogentPhilosopher.
Nice to meet you.

Hold on to your hat because it gets a little rough in these waters.


Tom

 

[Jose Fly]

Regarding Hitler and the Holocaust....

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.” [Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]

“What we have to fight for…is the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]

“This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.152]

“And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]​

 

[columbus]

Regarding Hitler and the Holocaust....

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.” [Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]

“What we have to fight for…is the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]

“This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.152]

“And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]​

Hitler was just another politician. Like Trump.
He said what got him what he wanted, just like politicians long before and after say.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

Regarding Hitler and the Holocaust....

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.” [Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]

“What we have to fight for…is the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]

“This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.152]

“And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.” [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]​

Darwin must be the referenced "Almighty Creator".

 

[Jose Fly]

Hitler was just another politician. Like Trump.
He said what got him what he wanted, just like politicians long before and after say.
Tom

Whaaaaaa? You mean Hitler grabbed on to whatever he could find to justify his hatred, including Christianity? No way!

 

[Jose Fly]

Darwin must be the referenced "Almighty Creator".

That would pretty bizarre, given that Nazi Germany banned the works of Darwin.

 

[columbus]

Whaaaaaa? You mean Hitler grabbed on to whatever he could find to justify his hatred, including Christianity? No way!

Actually, Hitler grabbed on to whatever got him power.
Christianity worked for a lot of such people in the mid-20th century.

Because ancient ethics are so flexible.
Tom

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

That would pretty bizarre, given that Nazi Germany banned the works of Darwin.

The left is nothing if not hypocritical.

 

[columbus]

The left is nothing if not hypocritical.

As opposed to what?
The right who are now explaining why liberty and democracy need to be curtailed in a post 9/11 world because terrorism?
Tom

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Similarly, lots of Christians don't think that the term "Christian" belongs in the name "Christian Identity Movement ". Because most Christians have appropriated secular humanist ethics and don't want to be associated with the bigotry of the good old days.
Tom

To be fair, the Christian Identity movement goes a fair bit beyond mere run of the mill bigotry.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Poor Margaret Sanger. She's always lied about. She wasn't a racist and I've never heard anything about her being such from any reputable source.

 

[Revoltingest]

That would pretty bizarre, given that Nazi Germany banned the works of Darwin.

That's just how deep the conspiracy against God goes!

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

To the OP, no. The Theory of Evolution merely gave people something new to twist in order to justify things people had been doing for literally millennia before Darwin came along.

Neither Darwin nor the Theory of Evolution can reasonably be blamed for Social Darwinism.

 

[Father Heathen]

Wow, I come to this site and see this post.

I'm not sure wether I should be scared or excited. Probably feeling both to be honest.

It's a nice pool despite the the occasional turds found floating in it.