Darwin's Theory | True?

[Heyo]

" Assuming"

Why assume, please?
There is already a claimant I mentioned in the footnotes of my post, please.
Right, please?

Regards

Regards

When you pass sand through a sieve, there is a selection process. The fine sand passes and the coarse sand stays in the sieve. Is there a "who" who decides which grain passes and which grain stays?

 

[Audie]

What is your understanding of "Darwin's Theory," Loaai?

Hasn't it been demonstrated enough yet?

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Why don't we find cats or humans or whales or rabbits in older geologic layers? If everything arose at once, then we should see humans and elephants and stegosaurus and ichthyostega all intermingling.

Who says they all “arose at once”? Not me. I read the creative Days as an indeterminate length of time; the context is indicative of that.

But really, all the major phyla that exist today (around 35) seems to have arisen during the Cambrian Explosion time frame, anyway. Go figure.

 

[Audie]

Who says they all “arose at once”? Not me. I read the creative Days as an indeterminate length of time; the context is indicative of that.

But really, all the major phyla that exist today (around 35) seems to have arisen during the Cambrian Explosion time frame, anyway. Go figure.

There's been an awful lot of evolution since then. Like anything living on land, say.

 

[firedragon]

Who says they all “arose at once”? Not me. I read the creative Days as an indeterminate length of time; the context is indicative of that.

You are right. The "day" or "yowm" could be periods. But one question does remain. The Genesis episode says that God called Light "day" and darkness "night", then it says "And there was evening, and there was morning--the third day." and so on. Does not that depict a day as a normal day with morning and evening?

 

[firedragon]

Darwin did not create Evolution, he only discovered it, please? Right, please?

Not really brother. Darwin did not discover "evolution". He developed a mechanism.

 

[ppp]

Who says they all “arose at once”? Not me. I read the creative Days as an indeterminate length of time; the context is indicative of that.

You are saying that God poofed species into existence at the exact intervals over the last 3.5 billion years in exactly the way to make it look like an common decent?

Seriously? That sounds like a big old ret con to make your biblical interpretations match the physical facts of the universe.

Is there a demon inside of each disease causing virus and bacterium, too?

But really, all the major phyla that exist today (around 35) seems to have arisen during the Cambrian Explosion time frame, anyway. Go figure.

Major animal phyla. In any case, you say this like it is supposed to be meaningful. Or is this just a random fact followed by nothing more than a significant look?

 

[dybmh]

You are right. The "day" or "yowm" could be periods. But one question does remain. The Genesis episode says that God called Light "day" and darkness "night", then it says "And there was evening, and there was morning--the third day." and so on. Does not that depict a day as a normal day with morning and evening?

According to the text, on the first day there were no planets, no sun. So the length of these "days" cannot be defined.

 

[Audie]

According to the text, on the first day there were no planets, no sun. So the length of these "days" cannot be defined.

Like everything else in the Bible that way

 

[firedragon]

According to the text, on the first day there were no planets, no sun. So the length of these "days" cannot be defined.

Then could you explain "divided the light the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day"?

"And there was evening and there was morning, a second day."

Both from Genesis 1.

 

[dybmh]

Then could you explain "divided the light the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day"?

"And there was evening and there was morning, a second day."

Both from Genesis 1.

I can't explain it, it's a mystery.

 

[firedragon]

I can't explain it, it's a mystery.

Okay.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

You are right. The "day" or "yowm" could be periods. But one question does remain. The Genesis episode says that God called Light "day" and darkness "night", then it says "And there was evening, and there was morning--the third day." and so on. Does not that depict a day as a normal day with morning and evening?

This was written in Hebrew, right? Do mornings have anything to do with the ending of their days? No.

If it were literal, the text would say “from evening to evening”.

 

[firedragon]

This was written in Hebrew, right? Do mornings have anything to do with the ending of their days? No.

If it were literal, the text would say “from evening to evening”.

It seems like you have not read that part of the Bible.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

It seems like you have not read that part of the Bible.

Yes I have, repeatedly!
Why would you say that?

 

[firedragon]

Yes I have, repeatedly!
Why would you say that?

Because you had missed the verses. It goes morning, evening, morning, evening. So if you want a morning to morning day, you have it. If you want an evening to evening day, you still have it.

So your thesis that a day is from evening to evening, and that the verses dont have it is absolutely flawed.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Because you had missed the verses. It goes morning, evening, morning, evening. So if you want a morning to morning day, you have it. If you want an evening to evening day, you still have it.

So your thesis that a day is from evening to evening, and that the verses dont have it is absolutely flawed.

It’s not flawed, at all.
In what language was this written? How did the Hebrews determine their days?

 

[firedragon]

It’s not flawed, at all.
In what language was this written? How did the Hebrews determine their days?

It was written in Hebrew. If you want me to repeat, though yowm can be interpreted as an era, the description of day and the next day by saying the morning came, evening took place, then morning came and it was a new day, shows that it is a day as we know it, not an era. But if you want you could argue the way you please. No problem. But you dont have to get into argument mate, I asked for your explanation.

How did the Hebrews determine these days? If you read Rashi's commentary, he speaks about the causation of division between day and night. He says "This took place after the primeval (divine) light was conserved for the righteous; but during the first seven [another reading is “three”] days of Creation the primeval light and darkness functioned together both by day and by night." which has no indication of a day being an era, but rather that there was a time that before the separation of day and night by light and darkness, both functioned together throughout the day. And after God separated it, night and day is divided by light and darkness, and evening and morning is rendered by darkness and light. Thats why it seems like a normal day, not an epoch which would contain millions of Nights and days, vis a vis, "days" as we know it.

Rashbam says this - "“And it was evening, and it was morning, a second day” – the day inclined toward evening, after which was the morning after the second day, behold, the second of the six days spoken of by the Holy One (praised be He!) in the Ten Commandments, and now the third day began that morning."

I hope you understand.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

It was written in Hebrew. If you want me to repeat, though yowm can be interpreted as an era, the description of day and the next day by saying the morning came, evening took place, then morning came and it was a new day, shows that it is a day as we know it, not an era. But if you want you could argue the way you please. No problem. But you dont have to get into argument mate, I asked for your explanation.

How did the Hebrews determine these days? If you read Rashi's commentary, he speaks about the causation of division between day and night. He says "This took place after the primeval (divine) light was conserved for the righteous; but during the first seven [another reading is “three”] days of Creation the primeval light and darkness functioned together both by day and by night." which has no indication of a day being an era, but rather that there was a time that before the separation of day and night by light and darkness, both functioned together throughout the day. And after God separated it, night and day is divided by light and darkness, and evening and morning is rendered by darkness and light. Thats why it seems like a normal day, not an epoch which would contain millions of Nights and days, vis a vis, "days" as we know it.

Rashbam says this - "“And it was evening, and it was morning, a second day” – the day inclined toward evening, after which was the morning after the second day, behold, the second of the six days spoken of by the Holy One (praised be He!) in the Ten Commandments, and now the third day began that morning."

I hope you understand.

Have you ever noticed the 7th day? It never is said to have ended.... and the Apostle Paul said in Hebrews 4 that it was continuing even in his day!

 

[firedragon]

Have you ever noticed the 7th day? It never is said to have ended.... and the Apostle Paul said in Hebrews 4 that it was continuing even in his day!

Okay fine. If your idea that the 7th day never ended that's your prerogative.

That was not what I was asking about.