Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
No, because pink things are visible to the human eye.
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Death-bed Conversions
- Thread starter rhyshanan
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No, because pink things are visible to the human eye.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
By the way, I'm guessing that you don't know that the Greek word translated as "invisible" actually means "unseen," as opposed to "unable to be seen."
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Something tells me you occasionally make exceptions to that rule, Pete.
If the invisible pink unicorn offered the prospect of life after death ... i'm sure someone(s) would believe in it and attribute miracles to it to justify its existance
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Is there a difference between invisible and unseeable?
If I can't see a thing, naturally I can't perceive its colour (if indeed it has one).
Wait a minute - you said that your invisible thing had an image. How is that any less contradictory?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
A visible thing (in this case a God the Son) who is the incarnation of something imperceptible to human beings (God the Father). Jesus walked the earth as the Son, so people could see and touch and hear him. He offered himself as living, breathing testimony to the Father, who cannot be seen nor touched nor heard by mankind.
If you allow for the existence of more than 3 spatial dimensions, the concept of a Holy Trinity isn't quite as stupifying.
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
...Yes, it is. The concept requires one object and three separate objects to all be considered the same thing. There's no mathematics you can use to make that less nonsensical.
Ah... so God the Son is an image of God the Father, except he was completely different in appearance. How is he an image, then?
How many dimensions does it take to make 1 equal 3?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Don't use mathematics at all. Leave it behind.
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
But A=A. A=/=B,C,D all at once.
Similarily, can't you resolve the conflict between invisibility and "pinkness" by "leaving vision behind"?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Similarily, can't you resolve the conflict between invisibility and "pinkness" by "leaving vision behind"?
Hey, that's not bad.
Tathagata
Freethinker
I don't get death bed conversions. How do choose what to convert to and what God to believe in?
Do you confess belief in Brahma, Krishna, Zeus, Allah, Yahweh, or Osiris?
In order for your conversion to be successful, you would have to convert to nearly every faith, but it's self defeating because some faiths will condemn you anyways for having other faiths.
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Do you confess belief in Brahma, Krishna, Zeus, Allah, Yahweh, or Osiris?
In order for your conversion to be successful, you would have to convert to nearly every faith, but it's self defeating because some faiths will condemn you anyways for having other faiths.
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Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
As a Buddhist, do you respect other religions and their followers? Do you practise universal compassion or are you more of a Christopher Hitchens type?
Zeus for sure
agreed. Someone, earlier, it was said that deathbed conversions are nonexistant ... While i disagree with that, I'm pretty sure that deathbed conversions to religions other than that of family/friends is alot less common. ... as this would only elevate trauma to religious family/friends ... depending on the religion of course
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Well - I won't hold my breath for that one, but the idea that you may be my next door neighbor isn't so far fetched. Like I said, I stay out of the "judging who's in" bidness. :slap:
McBell
Unbound
Sounds like Pascals Wager to me.
Any deity that falls for it is not one worth the effort to fool.
Walkntune
Well-Known Member
I hate it when I have to choose from categories that don't fit me...
On your death bed, it is too late to become someone different. If you are selfish, hateful and evil, it's too late for you. I don't care if you want to convert to Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, or Atheism; it's not gonna change who you are in a few hours. I guess that I think I fit better in your "Liberal" category, if that means I believe in a sane, just God. Everyone on this earth has exactly what they need to complete their mortal test. All men and women are given truth of some sort. It's not how much we have that counts, it's what we do with what we have (see parable of the talents). In fact, in my opinion, the people who are blessed to posses the knowledge that God lives are more responsible for lack of belief in God than anyone else. Jesus told us believers that we are the light of the world, that a city on a hill can not be hid. We are supposed to receive his image in our countenances. We are supposed to become Christlike to the point that we radiate his light. Unfortunately, those of us who are called to be "the salt of the earth" often think it's about us. We get all caught up in pride and sin and end up missing our whole reason for being here. We may "draw near unto [God] with our lips, but [our] hearts are far from [him]." "If the salt has lost it's savor, wherewith shall the earth be salted?"
I am afraid that most of the salt of the earth has lost it's savor and a lot of the candles have been hid under a bushel. What we need is to heed this commandment of Jesus Christ: "Therefore, hold up your light that it may shine unto the world. Behold I am the light which ye shall hold upthat which ye have seen me do."
When we (meaning those of us who claim to be followers of Christ) learn to truly become as Jesus Christ is, no one will wonder if God exists, because we will be irrevocable, walking evidence of the reality of God. Sigh... What on earth are we waiting for guys... The good atheists are waiting for us...
Your reasoning here does not take into account the thief on the cross.
Tathagata
Freethinker
Respect, yes. But that doesn't mean I won't disagree with them and debate the falsehood of other religions.
In fact, Buddha takes an even more extreme position than I.
the Buddha: "Preach it, make it known, establish it, open it, minutely explain it, and make it clear-until they, when others start vain doctrines, shall be able to VANQUISH AND REFUTE THEM, and so to spread the wonderworking truth abroad. I shall not die until the pure religion of truth shall have become successful, prosperous, widespread, and popular in all its full extent-until, in a word, it shall have been well proclaimed among men!" [mahaparinibbana sutta]
You seem to have the false impression that Buddha was a soft pushover who accepted all beliefs. That's not the case at all. You ask if I practice "universal compassion" or if I am more of a Christiopher Hitchens type, but I would say that Buddha himself was the Christopher Hitchens type (which, I find Hitchens to be a compassionate person as well).
the Buddha: "Let us, then, surrender the heresies of worshiping God and praying to him; let us not lose ourselves in vain speculations of profitless subtleties" [Culla Vagga 6:2]
the Buddha: "Others think that God is free creator of all things; clinging to these foolish notions, there is no awakening." [Lankavatara Sutra]
Sounds like the Hitchens type, no?
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