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Death,Why is it so Scary?

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
That is a nice question, and science is presently grappling with that question. Perhaps the expansion of space creates energy. Positive energy along with negative energy. The four fundamental forces and gravity, matter and anti-matter. The answer will only be available in future. People can certainly abort that search with "Goddidit", as they have been doing all along. Zero-energy universe - Wikipedia

First of all, Wickipedia is Not a Bible book.
I can agree that there are answers that will only be available in future time -> Jesus' Millennial time of governing over Earth.
New scrolls (new books) will then be opened, so answers will then be available according to Revelation 20:12.

In the Bible, expansion of space is caused by God according to Psalms 33:6; Hebrews 11:3; Isaiah 40:22; Jeremiah 10:12; Jeremiah 32:17; Jeremiah 51:15 B.
So, Creator God, His 'power and strength' (great energy) causes the expansion of space - Isaiah 40:26 B.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
We are all Spiritual beings in our true nature. We are eternal. Being eternal, we all think in eternal terms even when the physical body tends to wear out. We think eternal in so many ways like Love and Relationships. It is who we are................
Of course we think eternal in so many ways because ' eternity ' is in our hearts.
For each second we can count we can count both forwards and backwards forever.
We are either: Spiritual or Fleshly in our nature as per Galatians 5:19-22; Galatians 5:22-23.
Neither makes us eternal or death proof.
In Scripture I find Adam (mankind) was never offered immortality.
Being immortal is: death proof. If Adam was death proof there would be No need for God to say otherwise at Genesis 2:17.
What God offered was ' everlasting life ' or ' eternal life ' right here on planet Earth forever and ever.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The answer is so simple. If death was not scary, everyone would be killing themselves the first time things got tough.
Sometimes the roughest roads will end up with the Best view. This doesn't happen if all those rough roads are avoided.
That's what I see. It's very clear.

I remember a comedian saying if Heaven is so Great why aren't we killing ourselves to get there ?
I suppose the narrow road or path that Jesus recommends to stay on is the rougher narrow road with few on it - Matthew 7:13-14
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
So, Creator God, His 'power and strength' (great energy) causes the expansion of space -
It is OK to make a claim, but for the claim to be believed, it should be supported by evidence. Do not make claims without evidence.
See, that is what I told Paarsurrey also here: Alternative medicines
That is the habit that you people have - making claims without evidence, 'Emperor's new clothes'.
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
Death means you consciously go to sleep.

The living fear death by a taught consequence. Living lived healthy life is imaged voiced recorded. Our claim I don't completely not exist. I remain with heavenly father after human death.

Brother satanist fear of death was caused by burnt UFO machine irradiated act to our heavens. Images recorded fall out of natural life. Get destroyed cooled then reappear.

Only the living psyche gains recognition of what is lost. Feeling like they went to hell when science caused it. Whilst they too are being sick or suffering get the feedback advice. In a radiating atmospheric effect.

How we came to fear death by science satanism causes.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
It is OK to make a claim, but for the claim to be believed, it should be supported by evidence. Do not make claims without evidence.
See, that is what I told Paarsurrey also here: Alternative medicines
That is the habit that you people have - making claims without evidence, 'Emperor's new clothes'.
To me the evidence for Jesus' teachings are found throughout the pages of the Bible.
So, I do Not make claims without biblical support.
Often the churches of 'Christendom' (pretence Christians) teach church customs, church traditions as Scripture but aren't Scripture.
In other words, I simply state what I find to be as what the Bible really teaches, or biblical claims as found in the Bible.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Of course we think eternal in so many ways because ' eternity ' is in our hearts.
For each second we can count we can count both forwards and backwards forever.
We are either: Spiritual or Fleshly in our nature as per Galatians 5:19-22; Galatians 5:22-23.
Neither makes us eternal or death proof.
In Scripture I find Adam (mankind) was never offered immortality.
Being immortal is: death proof. If Adam was death proof there would be No need for God to say otherwise at Genesis 2:17.
What God offered was ' everlasting life ' or ' eternal life ' right here on planet Earth forever and ever.

Isn't Adam and Eve merely a Story? It is not True reality.

That's what I see. It's very clear. I stand by our eternal nature. There is no condition that must be met to attain it.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Isn't Adam and Eve merely a Story? It is not True reality.

That's what I see. It's very clear. I stand by our eternal nature. There is no condition that must be met to attain it.
I actually see it as reality. That is one reason why I investigated the claims for evolution as I grew older. Now they're (the scientists, some of them I guess) are saying that "Neanderthal man" had speech sounds similar to humans. To quote from an old song, "When will they ever learn..." The idea that genes are similar from one type to another in the sense of gorilla vs. human does not mean lack of a creator. Or that when we die, we go back to (ground?) zero as far as physical attributes go, using that type of phrase.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
In other words, I simply state what I find to be as what the Bible really teaches, or biblical claims as found in the Bible.
Yeah, you do that, but that cannot be construed as evidence. It is a much edited, orally remembered story in four books which say different things.
Now they're (the scientists, some of them I guess) are saying that "Neanderthal man" had speech sounds similar to humans. To quote from an old song, "When will they ever learn...".
Science will carry on in spite of your views. Not some of them but all of them. If we were not able to communicate with them, how come we all (Europeans especially) have traces of Neanderthal genome? The song is for you, but I know you are not going to learn.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Isn't Adam and Eve merely a Story? It is not True reality.
That's what I see. It's very clear. I stand by our eternal nature. There is no condition that must be met to attain it.

You're Not alone in your stand. I do wonder where one knows about one's 'eternal nature ' ____________
As the people migrated away from ancient Babylon they took with them their religious-myth ideas and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon of Babylon the Great. This is why we see so many overlapping or similar ' eternal nature ' ideas spread throughout the religious world today.

What is merely the story is that Adam and Eve could Not die.
Since they are Not alive on Earth today, stories place them alive in a spirit realm of existence.
No where in the account about Adam and Eve is there a teaching that they are immortal or death proof.
Rather, Adam and Eve were mortals and subject to death if they broke God's Law.
So, in the Bible ' everlasting life ' is based on listening to or obeying God's instructions for eternal life.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Yeah, you do that, but that cannot be construed as evidence. It is a much edited, orally remembered story in four books which say different things.Science will carry on in spite of your views. Not some of them but all of them. If we were not able to communicate with them, how come we all (Europeans especially) have traces of Neanderthal genome? The song is for you, but I know you are not going to learn.

One example of one of the stories in four books which say different things (?) ____________
We're all from the ' dirt ' of the ground just as Adam was - Genesis 3:19
So, it is No wonder to find DNA traces.
Who knows could go back to the dinosaurs.

Instead of dwelling on the past, better to be ALERT! and think about now, about the coming future.
The powers that be will be saying, " Peace and Security....." but that will prove to be a false peace.
Those of us who are alive at this coming time will end up in a 'time of separating', Jesus' glory time of Matthew 25:31-33.
The 'song' is for all of us to learn , but how many will listen ___________
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
I actually see it as reality. That is one reason why I investigated the claims for evolution as I grew older. Now they're (the scientists, some of them I guess) are saying that "Neanderthal man" had speech sounds similar to humans. To quote from an old song, "When will they ever learn..." The idea that genes are similar from one type to another in the sense of gorilla vs. human does not mean lack of a creator. Or that when we die, we go back to (ground?) zero as far as physical attributes go, using that type of phrase.


Poof creation lacks the details. The writers had none. They had only but Stories.

God created the universe to unfold to what we have today and beyond just like a seed grows into a giant tree. The real Genius part is that God created the universe to unfold in such a way that mankind would be able to figure it all out in time. All the secrets of God and the universe stare us all in the face.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
You're Not alone in your stand. I do wonder where one knows about one's 'eternal nature ' ____________
As the people migrated away from ancient Babylon they took with them their religious-myth ideas and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon of Babylon the Great. This is why we see so many overlapping or similar ' eternal nature ' ideas spread throughout the religious world today.

What is merely the story is that Adam and Eve could Not die.
Since they are Not alive on Earth today, stories place them alive in a spirit realm of existence.
No where in the account about Adam and Eve is there a teaching that they are immortal or death proof.
Rather, Adam and Eve were mortals and subject to death if they broke God's Law.
So, in the Bible ' everlasting life ' is based on listening to or obeying God's instructions for eternal life.


We are Spiritual beings in our true natures. I have direct experience to this. Do you really think God places conditions on taking care of His Children?? I think religion has corrupted your view. How little you really understand God at all.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
One example of one of the stories in four books which say different things (?)

Those of us who are alive at this coming time will end up in a 'time of separating', Jesus' glory time of Matthew 25:31-33.
The 'song' is for all of us to learn , but how many will listen ___________
first entry in Google Search: Comparing the Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John
In all, there are 2.2 million results. You are welcome to check: https://www.google.com/search?sourc...hUKEwjU6tuNk5PvAhVLeX0KHbBvD-QQ4dUDCAY&uact=5

Fear mongering. The song is a song, it has nothing to do with truth. Truth requires evidence and not assertions.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
......................................................................https://owlcation.com/humanities/Comparing-the-Gospels-Matthew-Mark-Luke-and-John
Fear mongering. The song is a song, it has nothing to do with truth. Truth requires evidence and not assertions.

Where else would Bible truth for a Christian be found but between the pages of Genesis though Revelation.
By Jesus basing his beliefs and teachings on the old Hebrew Scriptures was his evidence and Not his assertions.
Jesus taught that Scripture is 'religious truth' as per John 17:17 and he backed that up by referring back to the old Hebrew Scriptures.

I find Nothing fear mongering about that there is ' healing ' coming for earth's nations - Revelation 22:2
I find Nothing fear mongering that Earth will become a beautiful paradisical Earth as described in Isaiah 35th chapter.
I find Nothing fear mongering that the dead will be resurrected - Acts of the Apostles 24:15
I find Nothing fear mongering that ' enemy death ' will be No more on Earth - 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Poof creation lacks the details. The writers had none. They had only but Stories.

God created the universe to unfold to what we have today and beyond just like a seed grows into a giant tree. The real Genius part is that God created the universe to unfold in such a way that mankind would be able to figure it all out in time. All the secrets of God and the universe stare us all in the face.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
Here's what I see, and it's very clear. When I was a child, I thought as a child does. As soon as I found out about death, it scared me. I remember that period of time, I was about 6 years old. I never, ever thought of death as a real good thing. My childhood was good. I had a mother who cared about me, but did not discuss God or religion much with me. My father was hard working. He also didn't talk to me about God, what death is, but he did talk about loving LIFE. Now it was and still is very clear that death is not something really good. It was, and still is, an enemy.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Poof creation lacks the details. The writers had none. They had only but Stories.

God created the universe to unfold to what we have today and beyond just like a seed grows into a giant tree. The real Genius part is that God created the universe to unfold in such a way that mankind would be able to figure it all out in time. All the secrets of God and the universe stare us all in the face.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
Here's what I see. Moses knew that God created the heavens and the earth. I see clearly that Mars and the moon do not look so hospitable to life as we know it here. In fact, deserts look more hospitable than the topography of Mars and the moon.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Here's what I see, and it's very clear. When I was a child, I thought as a child does. As soon as I found out about death, it scared me. I remember that period of time, I was about 6 years old. I never, ever thought of death as a real good thing. My childhood was good. I had a mother who cared about me, but did not discuss God or religion much with me. My father was hard working. He also didn't talk to me about God, what death is, but he did talk about loving LIFE. Now it was and still is very clear that death is not something really good. It was, and still is, an enemy.
Well I too can remember the shock I felt when I discovered we all die - can't remember the age but perhaps around the same age as you - and hence I can see why so many will have a tendency towards religion if they can't process such, particularly when it can be so comforting, but if death is the end then we just have to live with it - or die with it. :oops: Perhaps it differs in people as to their earliest religious experiences - it not playing a great role in mine as far as I can remember, so I was not primed to ever think that there was something after death, and subsequently none of the religious explanations made much sense to me. Hence, still left with the brutal truth, as I see it - death being the end.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Well I too can remember the shock I felt when I discovered we all die - can't remember the age but perhaps around the same age as you - and hence I can see why so many will have a tendency towards religion if they can't process such, particularly when it can be so comforting, but if death is the end then we just have to live with it - or die with it. :oops: Perhaps it differs in people as to their earliest religious experiences - it not playing a great role in mine as far as I can remember, so I was not primed to ever think that there was something after death, and subsequently none of the religious explanations made much sense to me. Hence, still left with the brutal truth, as OI qsee it - death being the end.
Well well you did somewhat better than I did because you figured everybody faces death at that young age. Me, I figured it was ME facing death, not my mother, father, or anyone else. And it sure did scare the heebie jeebies out of me. I still don't like the idea of death ... but I later on found a reason to hope there was more to life than worrying or being scared of death and the evils around us. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
 
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