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Debate 3

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
You can stretch this to define anything at all as military equipment. Oil, metal, iron ore. How about cash, you need cash to run a military. Food, an army marches on its stomach.

Remember, we are not talking about barrels of oil ready to be used in tanks, we are not talking about tanks of processed gasoline. We are talking about oil fields, natural resources. If you define that as military equipment then any natural resource, or manufactured resource for that matter, can be classified as military equipment.

How about gold? If a country has lots of gold and uses that gold to fund its military, is it ok for the U.S. to invade it and take that gold? Is the gold military equipment?

We are not talking about terrorists here. We are talking about the Iraqi government, the one that the U.S. helped set up after they took out Saddam.
There is no Iraqi government. Governments govern. There is no governing going on in Iraq.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Do you believe that overlooking lies is optimistic? I see it as being a defeatist.
I don't overlook lies, just simply think that Trumps are more abundant, especially in his hypocrisy. The world sees it but many americans seem to believe him. Attacking Hillary doesn't absolve Trump.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
I don't overlook lies, just simply think that Trumps are more abundant, especially in his hypocrisy. The world sees it but many americans seem to believe him. Attacking Hillary doesn't absolve Trump.
Name the lies by Trump.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
I don't overlook lies, just simply think that Trumps are more abundant, especially in his hypocrisy. The world sees it but many americans seem to believe him. Attacking Hillary doesn't absolve Trump.

Why did she tell her daughter it was a terrorist attack before she told us it was the reaction to a Christian video tape?

Why did she delete her emails, knowing that she was under investigation?

Why did she have classified information on her personal computer?

Why is the DNC paying people to disrupt and instigate violence at Trump Rallies?

Why is the DNC paying people to encourage people to commit voter fraud?

The list is F-ing endless.

Why did a State Department Aide ask the FBI to change the classification on Clinton's emails?
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Why did she tell her daughter it was a terrorist attack before she told us it was the reaction to a Christian video tape?
Those don't even contradict.
Why did she delete her emails, knowing that she was under investigation?
That is false

Why did she have classified information on her personal computer?
She was a states person.

Why is the DNC paying people to disrupt and instigate violence at Trump Rallies?
False

Why is the DNC paying people to encourage people to commit voter fraud?
False
Why did a State Department Aide ask the FBI to change the classification on Clinton's emails?
All very much about analyzing the data to determine classification.

Trumps lies were numerous in the final debate, Clinton zero lies.
This site checked them both for lies in the final debate.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...rump-clinton-lies_us_58081480e4b0dd54ce37a668
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
Those don't even contradict.
Yes they do

That is false
No it isn't

She was a states person.
She admitted it was wrong. It is illegal even for members of the state department to have classified information on their personal email accounts.

This crap is worth fighting a civil war over.

No, you are.

All very much about analyzing the data to determine classification.
no, they were marked classified, no need to analyze anything.

Trumps lies were numerous in the final debate, Clinton zero lies.
This site checked them both for lies in the final debate.
more lies
This site is full of lies. Go to a non-liberal site for your information. Everything you have is biased towards Clinton.

You are the reason the system is Rigged. You are the reason democracy will be in ruins.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
This crap is worth fighting a civil war over.
People in this country are not guilty until proven innocent.

no, they were marked classified, no need to analyze anything.
By whom, the FBI?

more lies
This site is full of lies. Go to a non-liberal site for your information. Everything you have is biased towards Clinton.
I've gone for to the non-liberal sites for the information causing me to have to acutally look up the facts. I showed you the Benghazi things were false but you already think people are guilty.
You are the reason the system is Rigged. You are the reason democracy will be in ruins.
Democracy is about fighting for freedom of the people, not just individuals you agree with.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
People in this country are not guilty until proven innocent.


By whom, the FBI?


I've gone for to the non-liberal sites for the information causing me to have to acutally look up the facts. I showed you the Benghazi things were false but you already think people are guilty.

Democracy is about fighting for freedom of the people, not just individuals you agree with.
Dito
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
This is what is called a war crime. You can't just steal the natural resources of another country. This is not the 7th Century,

What Donald proposes is a mugging, large scale. You can't just decide to attack another nation and walk away with the spoils.

This is from the Chilcot Report and seems to back up what Donald said about the oil.

George Bush largely ignored UK advice on postwar planning
The inquiry found that the Bush administration repeatedly over-rode advice from the UK on how to oversee Iraq after the invasion, including the involvement of the United Nations, the control of Iraqi oil money and the extent to which better security should be put at the heart of the military operation. The inquiry specifically criticises the way in which the US dismantled the security apparatus of the Saddam Hussein army and describes the whole invasion as a strategic failure.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
This is from the Chilcot Report and seems to back up what Donald said about the oil.

George Bush largely ignored UK advice on postwar planning
The inquiry found that the Bush administration repeatedly over-rode advice from the UK on how to oversee Iraq after the invasion, including the involvement of the United Nations, the control of Iraqi oil money and the extent to which better security should be put at the heart of the military operation. The inquiry specifically criticises the way in which the US dismantled the security apparatus of the Saddam Hussein army and describes the whole invasion as a strategic failure.
I don't care what the UK advised. This is not a grey area, and it is not complex. You cannot take something that does not belong to you. It really is that simple. If you go to war against another country and take their resources, that is a war crime. Period.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
A sombre warning, but will it be heeded?


Vote for Donald Trump!
So then what of domestic terrorists, violent boyfriends, and other violent types? Something that isn't likely to change in the foreseeable future is that Americans pose the greatest danger and threat to Americans.
 
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