Define Universe

[paarsurrey]

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True. But created from what?

A good question.
From non-existence.
Regards

 

[BSM1]

A good question.
From non-existence.
Regards

Thus it begins...or ends...or wasn't even here in the first place...or whatever. Peace out.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

A good question.
From non-existence.
Regards

Non-existence is an impossibility, now, in the past, and in the future....
Think about it..existence exists....the universe exists......non-existence does not exist..ever....the universe can not not exist...ever...

 

[BSM1]

Non-existence is an impossibility, now, in the past, and in the future....
Think about it..existence exists....the universe exists......non-existence does not exist..ever....the universe can not not exist...ever...

Unless, of course, it didn't exist to begin with.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Unless, of course, it didn't exist to begin with.

But there was no beginning!!! If you imagine there may have been, you need to show how nothing could exist....PLUS....how all existence could come from it...haha...

 

[Tiapan]

Physics says matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed, they can only be interchanged ie E=mc^2. G_d seems to once again contradict the basic rules of physics.
Also what is a vacuum ie nothing?
If a space is filled with matter it is not empty, if we remove the gasses we refer to it as a vacuum, if we remove all the matter what do we get, a void, yet a photon, electron, muon, neutrino etc. maybe passing through it, is it truly empty? Then what about the space beyond 13.7 billion light years out where even photons from the big bang have not yet reached ie that which the big bang is supposedly expanding into. Is this true vacuum and do its cubic gigakilometers of nothingness really exist if in fact they are pure nothingness?

Cheers

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Physics says matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed, they can only be interchanged ie E=mc^2. G_d seems to once again contradict the basic rules of physics.
Also what is a vacuum ie nothing?
If a space is filled with matter it is not empty, if we remove the gasses we refer to it as a vacuum, if we remove all the matter what do we get, a void, yet a photon, electron, muon, neutrino etc. maybe passing through it, is it truly empty? Then what about the space beyond 13.7 billion light years out where even photons from the big bang have not yet reached ie that which the big bang is supposedly expanding into. Is this true vacuum and do its cubic gigakilometers of nothingness really exist if in fact they are pure nothingness?

Cheers

There is no vacuum, there is no void.....the so called vacuum of space is full of energy, so dense the energy level is infinite...

 

[LuisDantas]

Universe is the whole of physical existence, not all of it necessarily imaginable or discernible.

Nearly all of it is beyond our perception and exceedingly likely to remain so forever.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Universe is the whole of physical existence, not all of it necessarily imaginable or discernible.

Nearly all of it is beyond our perception and exceedingly likely to remain so forever.

Depends what your definition of physical is? I mean the universe is the whole of all that is..physical and nonphysical...not all of it necessarily imaginable or discernible.

 

[LuisDantas]

I suppose so. What would a nonphysical part of the universe be?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I suppose so. What would a nonphysical part of the universe be?

That which is incapable of being touched or seen...that is my dictionary definition..

 

[LuisDantas]

You should be careful with your concepts. Not everything in the physical universe can be touched or seen. There is electromagnetism, for instance.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

You should be careful with your concepts. Not everything in the physical universe can be touched or seen. There is electromagnetism, for instance.

As I said...that is my dictionary's definition....besides which, I already know that atheists claim that both matter and energy is physical...so even spiritual energy could be considered physical. Now I personally am on the opinion that dark energy aka zpe is the domain of the aether and spirit traditions of old...but I am not here to argue with you about it...you are welcome to disagree..

 

[LuisDantas]

Like you or else, there is such a thing as detectable energy. It is not a matter of faith.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Like you or else, there is such a thing as detectable energy. It is not a matter of faith.

Dark energy is undetectable and is a hypothesis....zpe which occupies the same space is detectable to a point, but the vast majority of the EM waves are undetectable....plenty of room left for surprises as to it's esoteric secrets...

 

[LuisDantas]

Being a hypothesis means that it may not exist after all. You are confusing the concepts.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Being a hypothesis means that it may not exist after all. You are confusing the concepts.

You are showing your ignorance wrt science....a hypothesis is proposed until sufficient evidence is present to support a theory.... Oh...I keep forgetting that English is not your first language..also brush up on 'concept' ...

 

[metis]

You two are not differing, but you are talking past each other.

 

[paarsurrey]

Non-existence is an impossibility, now, in the past, and in the future....
Think about it..existence exists....the universe exists......non-existence does not exist..ever....the universe can not not exist...ever...

If north pole exists, then the south also exists, one cannot finish north pole without finishing the south pole. Right?
Regards

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Is there a difference between A universe and THE universe.?
are ALL universes the same with the same laws?