Definitely not trolling, but two verses from Qur'an...why maybe Islam should be banned in America

["Born Eunuch"]

You're being intentionally dense. Stop. It.

Your argument, if that barely-coherent set of crayon-scribbles can even be called that, is that since the Quran has bits(quoted out of context) that tell them to kill non-believers and spy on them should make it illegal to practice, then other faiths with equal or greater commands should be illegal as well.

Lololol. Personal attacks aren't allowed Sir...I have already talked about other religions...

 

["Born Eunuch"]

Troll name: Check.
Troll thread: Check.

My name and this thread is not trolling, Sir/Ma'am. As I said I am debating, and how on earth would I be attacking anyone by referring to myself as a "eunuch?"

 

[Marisa]

This particular protestation of having been personally attacked, accompanied with accusations of forum violations, has a familiar ring to it.

 

["Born Eunuch"]

The Bible says to murder people as well.

These are ancient religious texts, and that is why they are allowed to be in the USA, and other countries.

And of course both are claiming they are now religions of peace.

Both religions have, or had, religious extremists, which have murdered people in this century.

A modern religion which came out saying - go out and murder people, - would be shut down immediately.

I find both the Bible and Qur'an to be terrible, in that they tell people to do horrible things to others, in the name of God.

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Well with the BIble, I know that different laws are given at different times. With the Qur'an as far as I know, Qur'an 5:33 is not a law that has been replaced by any law in the Qur'an.

 

[ChristineES]

I don't believe in book banning. As soon as we open the door to ban one religious text, or any other book for that matter, we open the door to keep banning books and we end up like in Fahrenheit 451.

 

["Born Eunuch"]

Do you really what the government deciding what you are allow to believe?
If so you might want to try China.

"Vladimir Lenin similarly wrote: “A Marxist must be a materialist, i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could”
Communism Persecutes Religion | No Communism

Too far?
If you ban one religion aren't you showing approval for those you don't ban?

A person can believe all blacks or all whites or all republicans should be killed. I don't care as long as they don't act on the belief.
Our laws provide the rules which everyone must abide by without respect to religious belief.

I'm not saying it is right or wrong but it seems to work out for the best.

That didn't happen for Malcolm X. Some Muslim might have decided to "execute" someone (Mr. X) for "waging war against Allah and His Messenger..." I'm not saying people can't believe what they want to believe. I'm saying is permitting their religion in a free speech society A THREAT TO THE SAFETY OF OTHERS IN THE SOCIETY.

They have Muslim lands...why not go take their fatwas to their own lands?

 

[FTNZ]

Lolololol.

No Ma'am, you are assuming about my reasons for using the word Ma'am lolol. I only mean it as a sign of respect. Beliefs are what lead to actions...

I know exactly what you meant by singling female posters out... and adding Sir to your other posts from now on doesn't hide that , lol.

Beliefs are not a crime. Actions are. So simple a child could understand that.

 

[Marisa]

Well with the BIble, I know that different laws are given at different times. With the Qur'an as far as I know, Qur'an 5:33 is not a law that has been replaced by any law in the Qur'an.

Revelations 22:18-19

 

[FTNZ]

That didn't happen for Malcolm X. Some Muslim might have decided to "execute" someone (Mr. X) for "waging war against Allah and His Messenger..." I'm not saying people can't believe what they want to believe. I'm saying is permitting their religion in a free speech society A THREAT TO THE SAFETY OF OTHERS IN THE SOCIETY.

They have Muslim lands...why not go take their fatwas to their own lands?

I'm opposed to human rights breaches in any country. That's what humanism means. It's also what basic human empathy means... not everyone has that, though.

 

["Born Eunuch"]

Do trust that I am crystal clear on your intention with this line of accusation that you are making. Crystal. As in, you are transparent.

Lolololol.

Why all the personal attacks? lol Personal attacks are not allowed here on the site nor am I here to be personal with anyone. The subject was as stated in thread title...lol

 

[Marisa]

Lolololol.

Why all the personal attacks? lol Personal attacks are not allowed here on the site nor am I here to be personal with anyone. The subject was as stated in thread title...lol

Being easily understood is a personal attack?

 

["Born Eunuch"]

I don't believe in book banning. As soon as we open the door to ban one religious text, or any other book for that matter, we open the door to keep banning books and we end up like in Fahrenheit 451.

Well books might be different because everyone doesn't hold every book to be am instructional manual on how to live whereas with religion people believe that they are being instructed by their God to do things like possibly kill someone for practicing freedom of speech.

 

["Born Eunuch"]

I'm opposed to human rights breaches in any country. That's what humanism means. It's also what basic human empathy means... not everyone has that, though.

I see Ma'am Thanks for contributing.

 

[FTNZ]

Well books might be different because everyone doesn't hold every book to be am instructional manual on how to live whereas with religion people believe that they are being instructed by their God to do things like possibly kill someone for practicing freedom of speech.

And it's fine until someone kills someone or threatens to. Those are crimes, believing isn't.

You're allowed to have your beliefs and they are too. You do realise, don't you, that limiting others' freedom just limits your own?

 

[FTNZ]

I see Ma'am Thanks for contributing.

Thanks for "definitely not trolling but" lol

 

["Born Eunuch"]

I know exactly what you meant by singling female posters out... and adding Sir to your other posts from now on doesn't hide that , lol.

Beliefs are not a crime. Actions are. So simple a child could understand that.

Lolololol you are believing falsely Ma'am. Your belief led to what you just did of falsely accusing me.

 

["Born Eunuch"]

And it's fine until someone kills someone or threatens to. Those are crimes, believing isn't.

You're allowed to have your beliefs and they are too. You do realise, don't you, that limiting others' freedom just limits your own?

Well I don't say that anyone can't believe what they want to...I'm saying why live in a free speech society if one feels the need to issue a fatwa on someone for exercising free speech. Go to your own land.

I do think that it is a threat to the safety of others.

 

["Born Eunuch"]

Thanks for "definitely not trolling but" lol

No, I'm not trolling...I am being serious with a serious question about the safety of others in free speech societies.

 

[ChristineES]

No, I'm not trolling...I am being serious with a serious question about the safety of others in free speech societies.

The vast majority of Muslims don't go around killing people just as Christians don't go around stoning people, etc. People do have common sense.

 

[Nietzsche]

The vast majority of Muslims don't go around killing people just as Christians don't go around stoning people, etc. People do have common sense.

Most do, perhaps..