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Defute the Bible or not!

EnochSDP

Active Member
I would like anyone with a refute about the Bible to post.Any and all!Do not leave one out.I will respond to each and everyone and if it is undeniable I will amit it!Try if you can!
Im doing this only to stick up for my God and Bible.Too many claim errors in the Bible.That it is failable.It isnt.Try your best.
 
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The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
What do you want? Where science contradicts the Bible?

When I point them out, you, like all Christians, will say "That's metaphorical!"


Where there are Biblical contradictions in the Bible?

"You are misinterpreting!!!"


What do you want me to refute, specifically?
 

EnochSDP

Active Member
Start with one, a clear thoughout and explainable refute.
We will start with just one and go from there!Give your best one!
 
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Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Comparative Religion (7 Viewing)
Discussion, no debate, of general religion topics

Discussion, no debate, of general religion topics

This is comparative religion.
No debating is allowed here.
So, no.

Anyone who even tries is going against RF's rules.

(PS: Did you mean refute?)
 

EnochSDP

Active Member
Discussion, no debate, of general religion topics

This is comparative religion.
No debating is allowed here.
So, no.

Anyone who even tries is going against RF's rules.

(PS: Did you mean refute?)
Im new here could you move into the correct forum or tell me how.thanks.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Im new here could you move into the correct forum or tell me how.thanks.
Sure thing. I will move it to General Religious Debates for you right now.

-- Mod Post --

Thread moved to General Religious Debates. Debates may occur from here on in in accordance with the forum rules.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I would like anyone with a defute about the Bible to post.Any and all!Do not leave one out.I will respond to each and everyone and if it is undeniable I will amit it!Try if you can!
Im doing this only to stick up for my God and Bible.Too many claim errors in the Bible.That it is failable.It isnt.Try your best.

I think acceptance of the Bible as the Word of God is based on faith, not proof.

So I don't see there being anything to refute other then that faith. One's faith is their faith. I don't think it likely someone is going to be able to refute that.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
I would like anyone with a defute about the Bible to post.Any and all!Do not leave one out.I will respond to each and everyone and if it is undeniable I will amit it!Try if you can!
Im doing this only to stick up for my God and Bible.Too many claim errors in the Bible.That it is failable.It isnt.Try your best.
This is related to a thread that currently exists:

Why is Tyre still here?
 

HerDotness

Lady Babbleon
It's been done over and over and over again here and elsewhere, round and round, the unending circle.

"The Bible is SO proof. God does SO exist and act in our lives and love us."
"Is not. Doesn't and can't."
"Is so...does so."
< yawn >

Only rarely does someone from one side actually listen, consider and come to believe what the other side says.

So far, I'm waiting to see what will happen with you, because I can assure you that there's unlikely to be anything you could say that will persuade me that I should immediately believe in the Bible as the word of anyone but some long-ago people who were writing down what they thought was true, revealing how sadly ignorant they were of so many things we know today such as what causes many diseases and how to cure them.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
What does "Defute" really mean......:confused:

I saw it used online in a definition but don't know why it's used in the OP....
 

HerDotness

Lady Babbleon
I think that the OP means either "dispute" or "refute."

"Defute" isn't a word I've ever heard till now, and I'm a former English teacher, so words and their meanings have long been a fascination as well as once my business.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I would like anyone with a defute about the Bible to post.Any and all!Do not leave one out.I will respond to each and everyone and if it is undeniable I will amit it!Try if you can!
Im doing this only to stick up for my God and Bible.Too many claim errors in the Bible.That it is failable.It isnt.Try your best.

How is it that the Israelites - who, according to the Bible, numbered enough that just the men could've stood shoulder-to-shoulder forming a line from one side of the Sinai to the other - wandered this tiny peninsula for 40 years? How did they do this without leaving a trace to be found by modern archaeologists?

And why is it that the archaeological evidence in Canaan/Israel shows a continuity of culture (as would be expected if the Israelites emerged from the native Canaanites) and not a discontinuity (as would be expected if the Israelites were foreign invaders that displaced the indigenous people)?
 

EnochSDP

Active Member
It's been done over and over and over again here and elsewhere, round and round, the unending circle.

"The Bible is SO proof. God does SO exist and act in our lives and love us."
"Is not. Doesn't and can't."
"Is so...does so."
< yawn >

Only rarely does someone from one side actually listen, consider and come to believe what the other side says.

So far, I'm waiting to see what will happen with you, because I can assure you that there's unlikely to be anything you could say that will persuade me that I should immediately believe in the Bible as the word of anyone but some long-ago people who were writing down what they thought was true, revealing how sadly ignorant they were of so many things we know today such as what causes many diseases and how to cure them.

So acients were sad and pathetic and ignorant?
Tell since the Bible was constructed by mans schemes and thoughts why can not anyone duplicate it?
Why is it that the Hebrew language is the only language that can repeatidly display the number 7, meaning completeion.Just in Genesis 1:1 it is 21 multiples of seven in that one verse in Hebrew.No other language with all the latters and words they have can make that many multiples of 7 in one sentence.
 

EnochSDP

Active Member
This is related to a thread that currently exists:

Why is Tyre still here?

The ancient city of Tyre was on a small island which no longer exists. It was completely destroyed by an invading army. You can go to the site in the Mediterranean and see the underwater ruins today.
 

HerDotness

Lady Babbleon
How is it that the Israelites - who, according to the Bible, numbered enough that just the men could've stood shoulder-to-shoulder forming a line from one side of the Sinai to the other - wandered this tiny peninsula for 40 years? How did they do this without leaving a trace to be found by modern archaeologists?

Good question! :clap No bones of people or animals that could have been Israelites or their flocks, no trash dumps--nothing whatsoever has been found to attest that this occurred, and you can bet that biblical archaeologists have been looking for this sort of evidence.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
So acients were sad and pathetic and ignorant?

Many were...



Tell since the Bible was constructed by mans schemes and thoughts why can not anyone duplicate it?
Because not just one person had a hand in writing the various scrolls. One scroll could have had multiple contributors. Some scrolls (i.e. The four gospels) were penned by anonymous writers.


Why is it that the Hebrew language is the only language that can repeatidly display the number 7, meaning completeion...
Because with a little imagination you can make the language or the scriptures themselves mean anything. Some will see patterns because they want to and others won't.
 
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EnochSDP

Active Member
How is it that the Israelites - who, according to the Bible, numbered enough that just the men could've stood shoulder-to-shoulder forming a line from one side of the Sinai to the other - wandered this tiny peninsula for 40 years? How did they do this without leaving a trace to be found by modern archaeologists?

And why is it that the archaeological evidence in Canaan/Israel shows a continuity of culture (as would be expected if the Israelites emerged from the native Canaanites) and not a discontinuity (as would be expected if the Israelites were foreign invaders that displaced the indigenous people)?

Except for Moses, Joshua, and a handful of others, the entire population of the original Hebrews (who had been Egyptian slaves) were punished by God for grumbling during that 40 years. They all died in the Sinai desert and never even reached the Promised Land.There's no evidence to be found when one is looking in the wrong place for it. You want to go east, to the Arabian Peninsula, to the foot of a mountain called Jabal al Lawz.There's quite a bit of evidence around that region supporting the idea that 2.5 million people camped in the area, including huge boulders with seemingly inexplicable water erosion, originating from inside the rock itself, toward the top. Evidence from Egypt indicates that Moses (Akhenaten) led his people from Pi-Rameses (near modern Kantra) southward, through Sanai, towards Lake Timash. Among the retainers who fled with Moses were the sons and families of Jacob (Israel). Then at the instigation of their leader, they constructed the tabernacle at the foot of Mount Sanai. Once Moses had died, they began their invasion of the country left by their forefathers so long before. But Canaan (Palestine) had changed considerably in the meantime, having been infiltrated by waves of Philistines and Phoenicians. The records tell of great sea battles, and of massive armies marching to war. At length, the Hebrews (under their new leader, Joshua) were successful and, once across the Jordan, they took Jericho from the Canaanites, gaining a real foothold in their traditional Promised Land.
 
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