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Defute the Bible or not!

mycorrhiza

mycorrhiza

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EnochSDP said:
The signifinance of seven perpertrates throughout you entire life and you know it.I do not need to demostrate it but I will.
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Have you seen the movie The Number 23? It shows a similar concept but with 23 instead of 7. Great movie, by the way.
 
EnochSDP

EnochSDP

Active Member
mycorrhiza said:
Pluto doesn't count as a regular planet anymore.

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune. That's 8.

We have proof of evolution. Why would it be proven wrong?
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So does proof make things 100% fact?If I got proof of something does that make it fact?There has been many things that had proof and then was found untrue.
 
mycorrhiza

mycorrhiza

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EnochSDP said:
So does proof make things 100% fact?If I got proof of something does that make it fact?There has been many things that had proof and then was found untrue.
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I can't say that evolution is 100% proven, but it's proven beyond reasonable doubt. We know more about evolution than we know about gravity. Will gravity be proven wrong?
 
EnochSDP

EnochSDP

Active Member
mycorrhiza said:
You are over-analyzing the Bible and some of that stuff is just made up. Anyone who studies hebrew could tell you that Elohim does not include three parts of God. If it did, then the Jews, some of which actually speak Hebrew, would also believe in the trinity. A King isn't more than one person because he says "We" instead of "I". You are looking for Christianity where it cannot be found.

When it comes to the pattern of 7, the same concept can be applied to every single work of literature. If you want to, you can find patterns in anything, because that's how the human mind works.
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Why do you think it works that way?
 
EnochSDP

EnochSDP

Active Member
mycorrhiza said:
I can't say that evolution is 100% proven, but it's proven beyond reasonable doubt. We know more about evolution than we know about gravity. Will gravity be proven wrong?
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No you do not no more on gravity.every person on earth depends and knows gravity.Not every person knows and depends on evolution.
And just because it has been proven by you reason doesnt make it proven in mine or many many others.
 
fantome profane

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
EnochSDP said:
It used to be 9?why was a planet that wasnt proposed as one?There was juno,vesta,ceres,pallas and so on meaning that man has made claims for a long time and over time there are proved wrong in alot ininstances.evolution will be one.
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Pluto evolved into a planetoid. :p
 
mycorrhiza

mycorrhiza

Well-Known Member
EnochSDP said:
Why do you think it works that way?
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Because being able to find patterns has been useful for our survival and everyday interaction.

I could find the number 4 in everything if I wanted to. It just goes to show that we look for patterns where there are none, and we find them. The same goes for recognizing faces. All the time Jesus has been seen in toast, peanut butter, etc shows us that our ability to recognize faces works on other things too.
 
Debater Slayer

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
To be honest, I don't see the point in this. If someone believes that the Bible is infallible, then they won't believe it contains any errors even if they were shown clear evidence to the contrary.

On the other hand, if someone doesn't believe that most of the Bible was divinely inspired or infallible, they will most likely be more willing to see the errors (if there are any) and this will probably not change their mind on the subject, since there are so many claims of the Bible containing errors
and/or contradictions.

The Sum of Awe said:
What do you want? Where science contradicts the Bible?

When I point them out, you, like all Christians, will say "That's metaphorical!"


Where there are Biblical contradictions in the Bible?

"You are misinterpreting!!!"
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I find it hard to believe that billions of Christians adopt the same modus operandi when it comes to interpreting the Bible.
 
mycorrhiza

mycorrhiza

Well-Known Member
EnochSDP said:
No you do not no more on gravity.every person on earth depends and knows gravity.Not every person knows and depends on evolution.
And just because it has been proven by you reason doesnt make it proven in mine or many many others.
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We can't know if gravity is actually intelligent falling, or maybe magic gnomes holding us down. We understand less about gravity than we do about evolution. Both are facts, though.

If it weren't for evolution we wouldn't be here, and much of our modern medicines wouldn't work. So I'd say that we're highly dependent on evolution.

I'm not telling you to trust scientific method, because a God could have faked all the proof to test one's faith. All I'm saying is that you should consider the facts we have. Evolution has been proven by science. If you don't trust science, that's fine, but to trust one scientific fact and not another seems inconsistent.
 
EnochSDP

EnochSDP

Active Member
mycorrhiza said:
Because being able to find patterns has been useful for our survival and everyday interaction.

I could find the number 4 in everything if I wanted to. It just goes to show that we look for patterns where there are none, and we find them. The same goes for recognizing faces. All the time Jesus has been seen in toast, peanut butter, etc shows us that our ability to recognize faces works on other things too.
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How can patterns form from randomness?
 
EnochSDP

EnochSDP

Active Member
mycorrhiza said:
We can't know if gravity is actually intelligent falling, or maybe magic gnomes holding us down. We understand less about gravity than we do about evolution. Both are facts, though.

If it weren't for evolution we wouldn't be here, and much of our modern medicines wouldn't work. So I'd say that we're highly dependent on evolution.

I'm not telling you to trust scientific method, because a God could have faked all the proof to test one's faith. All I'm saying is that you should consider the facts we have. Evolution has been proven by science. If you don't trust science, that's fine, but to trust one scientific fact and not another seems inconsistent.
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It seems logical to trust evident proofs and not estimated ones.
I agree with you comment mostly.
It seems unlogical to believe something that requires eons of time to actually prove 100%.The purpose here is to point out untruths or falsehoods within the Bible.If you do not want to do that do not post.I do not want to here about crying that people do not want to face our proofs that the Bible is incorrect.If there is something incorrect and it can not be explained away then it is false.simple.
 
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