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Defute the Bible or not!

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
I would like anyone with a defute about the Bible to post.Any and all!Do not leave one out.I will respond to each and everyone and if it is undeniable I will amit it!Try if you can!
Im doing this only to stick up for my God and Bible.Too many claim errors in the Bible.That it is failable.It isnt.Try your best.

From Urban Dictionary
1. Defute
To refute a comment in an argument in a dirty way.

Is this really the word you wanted to use? ;)
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
How can patterns form from randomness?

You're joking, right?

A fair swath of my professional life deals with the problem that patterns form from randomness all the time (in my case, patterns in vehicle collisions). Part of my job is to figure out whether a cluster of collisions has a common cause or if they're all just a product of random chance.

Yes, patterns can form from randomness. In fact, take any random assortment of things and I'll virtually guarantee that you'll be able to find some sort of pattern in it. This phenomenon is called pareidolia.

Pareidolia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
But you havent refuted it at all!

you might as well have said, "i just made that up..."
if you don't provide sources. don't you know that is part of the process of refuting any claims or in your case proving your baseless claims
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Except for Moses, Joshua, and a handful of others, the entire population of the original Hebrews (who had been Egyptian slaves) were punished by God for grumbling during that 40 years. They all died in the Sinai desert and never even reached the Promised Land.
So your argument is that they left no evidence because only a very small number of people were actually there for any significant length of time?

There's no evidence to be found when one is looking in the wrong place for it. You want to go east, to the Arabian Peninsula, to the foot of a mountain called Jabal al Lawz.
What does evidence on the Arabian peninsula have to do with what people were doing on the Sinai peninsula?

There's quite a bit of evidence around that region supporting the idea that 2.5 million people camped in the area, including huge boulders with seemingly inexplicable water erosion, originating from inside the rock itself, toward the top.
Two problems here:

- first: what evidence?
- second: the Bible says that 600,000 men plus women and children entered the desert. It seems that what you're saying here implies that somewhere around 2,500,000 left the desert. But you argued above that only a very small number of people wandered the Sinai in between, didn't you? Aren't you contradicting yourself?

Evidence from Egypt indicates that Moses (Akhenaten) led his people from Pi-Rameses (near modern Kantra) southward, through Sanai, towards Lake Timash.
What evidence indicates this?

Among the retainers who fled with Moses were the sons and families of Jacob (Israel). Then at the instigation of their leader, they constructed the tabernacle at the foot of Mount Sanai. Once Moses had died, they began their invasion of the country left by their forefathers so long before. But Canaan (Palestine) had changed considerably in the meantime, having been infiltrated by waves of Philistines and Phoenicians. The records tell of great sea battles, and of massive armies marching to war. At length, the Hebrews (under their new leader, Joshua) were successful and, once across the Jordan, they took Jericho from the Canaanites, gaining a real foothold in their traditional Promised Land.
This gets back to my last question in that post: what you're saying suggests that we should see a major cultural shift in Canaan when Joshua and the Israelites invaded and pushed out the Philistines and Phonecians. The archaeological evidence suggests that this didn't happen.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Here's one.......
How do you reconcile the written account in Matthew whereas Jesus's birth took place during the reign of Herod the Great, in face that he had died in the spring of 4 BC at approx 70 years of age?
 

EnochSDP

Active Member
i quote

"Now, I must admit that this has not been verified by any "official" archaeologists, but the video, which I have seen, does raise some interesting possibilities....I must admit that this is speculative at present and it has not been verified."

anything else?
atleast it is striaght forward.It doesnt use double talk tactics like scientist.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
atleast it is striaght forward.It doesnt use double talk tactics like scientist.

With all due respect, I think that maybe you should consider the possibility that the reason why what scientists say sounds like "double talk" to you is that you don't actually understand what they're saying.
 

EnochSDP

Active Member
With all due respect, I think that maybe you should consider the possibility that the reason why what scientists say sounds like "double talk" to you is that you don't actually understand what they're saying.
No i understand and so do they.You mite not it mite just fly over your head and therefore you believe them.
 

EnochSDP

Active Member
i quote

"Now, I must admit that this has not been verified by any "official" archaeologists, but the video, which I have seen, does raise some interesting possibilities....I must admit that this is speculative at present and it has not been verified."

anything else?
Is thier statements any less true?
 
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