oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
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Democrat Sprays Cashier In Eyes With Lysol
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Oh c'mon.
You know I was impressed when you came to Christmas wearing a kilt and a blue fuzzy thong over your head.*
Tom
*it's an inside joke. Revoltingest really can be impressive. PM him for details, it was his thread.
Having trouble finding any reference to her being a Democrat.
Worse, I notice you don't mention her religion...
The prophets speak.
We believe.
If a conservative is a pro gay marriage, pro trans folk, pro prostitution,
pro abortion, pro separation of church & state, anti public school led prayer,
pro evolution, cartoon watching, Croc wear'n, atheist.
Critics & Fans would reverse their current positions.
Obama did get his way. And it's been quite the mess.
No leader we've ever had would've prepared for this pandemic.
Trump is a poor manager (as I've said before), but Obama also
didn't stock up on ventilators, masks, etc. He was busy spending
the money instead on the 2 wars he promised to end but didn't.
It would be a fashion faux pas to wear a thong under one's kilt.
The party determination is on the first page, severalHaving trouble finding any reference to her being a Democrat.
Worse, I notice you don't mention her religion...
posts down from the OP.
I don't have any statistics on her religion, so it's unknown.
You have the same statistics on her religion as you quoted for her politics...her ethnicity, gender, location...she's a black, female from the Northern US. I'm not certain of the exact statistic, but is undoubtedly very high that she's Christian. Quite a bit less that she's Muslim. Next to none that she's Shinto or atheist.
This is great....you're adding a tribe.
But what kind of Christian?
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Sucker!
Oh........ that looks fairly civilised.
All you need to add is gender, race, nationality, colour equality and you've got the whole moderation package.
I'm impressed.
Ah!.... Political Tribalism. I suppose there is some of that here but it's yonks since I met with a political nutter.
Hey! I've seen a thread about political nutters. Errr..... trashy reasoning and political extremism, although such people committing horrid crimes step out of that group in to the Serious Criminal Offender category, a whole big difference.
Oh please!
President Obama did not get his way. His dream was interfered with, messed up, trashed and eventually smashed up...... and then the opposition to pointed to what was left and accused him of it.
That's a bit of an obtuse mention there, of ventilators, masks etc. Just exactly which country in the World was ready for Covid-19?
Our NHS is one of the institutions which might benefit its country better during this crisis, which is why nearly all of the people are in unity about isolation and lockdown so that we don't stretch the NHS beyond what it can handle. The conversion of the Excel building in Docklands, right beside London's City Airport with 4000 ventilation units being prepared is what our leaders can produce but when this started we had very very little for the worst cases.
But to believe & obey is good for membership health.Sucker!
I am a model citizen who agrees with my superiors.
And I'm learning why I'm wrong when I disagree.
Yes, I do have a gender, a color, a nationality....but not a race.
The powers that be have decreed there's no such thing as race.
Apparently, to be "conservative" is to hold more liberal values
than do most "liberals". Go figure.
OK....what's really going on....
There are some illiberal "liberals" who use membership in other
groups as an insult. When they don't get their way, they'll petulantly
call other posters "Conservative!", "Creationist!", "Homo!", "Old!",
"White!", "Male!", "Jew", "Misogynist", etc.
(Those are actual epithets I've seen flung on RF by some vaunted
letish members. And no...I won't name the names I know.)
What I glean from conversations with my superiors is that some tribes
don't have members who commit such evil based on membership.
They're just outliers who don't represent the whole.
But other tribes...those members do it because of membership, &
thus do represent the whole.
To this recovering reprobate, it appears to be an ad hoc double
standard, but in reality it takes very keen judgement & complex
reasoning to achieve this. It's beyond my understanding, but
I'm trying to learn.
His bill passed, & imposed dramatic change upon us.
Every bill results from political compromise, & is thus
never what the originators want.
Essentially, you're saying....
"Oh, if only Obama had unlimited power, those nasty
Republicans wouldn't have cause Obamacare to have
all those flaws!"
For example, the incompetent roll our of something as
simple as registration to ages.
What's "obtuse" is to not prepare for a pandemic. You're justifying
both Obama's & Trump's failure with the old excuse....
"But everybody else was unprepared too!"
In focusing upon your partisan preference, you ignore the fact that
our problem is widespread & continuing governmental hebetude
about disasters, weather, & pandemics. We have been & continue
to be chronically unprepared.
If Biden wins in November, this means that that we'll simply return
to pre-Trump levels of incompetent governance.
IOW, Trump is a problem, not the problem.
Security problems we have but don't address....
- People don't stockpile essentials in preparation for shortages.
- Our power grid is inadequately decentralized & vulnerable to
hacking.
- Our military is too geared up for playing policeman to the world,
& not focused enuf on existential threats.
- Our foreign policy tends to create enemies, & ensure that they
remain that way.
- We have a national helium reserve, but nothing for medical
emergencies.
- We have property tax policies & zoning laws with disincentives
for energy independence.
- Our border security is a mess, with competing parties unable
to agree on a comprehensive system.
I'll remember more later.
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oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
It's a long time since I read our Equality Act but I think that we do recognise 'Race'. We recognise 'Creed' as well as 'Religion', 'Marital Status', .... did we mention 'Age'? That's in our Act as well.
Sticks and stones........ I post on an extreme religious forum where I get called some very very shocking things........ most of the time I am immune.....
How wicked of them. One member told me that my Avatar picture looked like a pile of poo! Our little dachshund .... posing sweetly for the camera..... a pile of poo! But 'No', I was not affected by it..... tough as old boots, me. The fact that I changed my picture within the week was just coincidence.
The trouble with being Old, Revolting..... Ohhh Damn! That's another member who has called you....... Sorry.
The thing about age is that we have difficulty in learning new tricks. So I clutch oldness to my breast frantically in thge hopes that this condition might gain me favours, keep me from trouble, avert the gaze of the law, etc.
Nah! I think that America had a great opportunity to introduce a National any-persons health-for-all institution that it could be proud of.......... but I don't thinbk that all Americans care that much. It's a shame, I think.
That is just not correct .........
Any risk assessor can tell you that projecting thoughts out to perceive unknown risks and threats is very very hard. It's not your world and never was, I think.
So you look back with 20-20 probably from an armchair and imagine that you saw Covid-19 coming..... you did not!
Just occasionally we, each of us, get a perception right, and feel really good about our foresight or our luck, but in the case of President Obama he wanted a health service that just might have been able to make a difference at this time, and it got messed up by political enemies who just mess up anything that a differing government tries to do.
Oh please! Let me stop you there!
You don't like paying money in to governments so that they have extra funds for for forward thinking like this.
Stop it, Revolting! I think you hate taxes!
We both could but just like governmrents all the way back through time we don't always know what we need to prepare for.
A typical example is the shamed disgraced politician Churchill who for ten or more years called out for the Brit government to arm itself properly with modern weapons and to be ready for defence.
President Obama called for a decent health service for all....... History will honour President Obama so highly........ it will.
Such things & more are in our laws.
We even have "educational affiliation" as a protected group.
The difference is that you so richly deserve to be insulted.
Nuh uh.
Don't get all tribal on me, Chatsworth!
There's no discussion to be had if you dwell in tribal prejudices.
I hate taxes.
I hate going to the dentist (something you Brits should understand).
But both have their uses.
The conversation should be about what taxes should spent on....not love vs hate.
My fellow voters really like policing the world, & waging wars.
We spend a lot of money ensuring that Cuba & Iran get no medical supplies.
We spend even more littering the globe with depleted uranium bullets.
I'd prefer addressing the national security things I listed earlier.
Alas, Democrats & Republicans don't seek my guidance on such matters.
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oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
You can be so cruel.
I translate that to mean that you won't play if you're losing.
Your candidates tell you what they believe in, I'm guessing, and then you vote.
Paying taxes does not win you a seat in Congress.... True?
Can't help you. The USA doesn't listen to oldies in Kent, England.
Hey, you're the one who told me you deserve it.
You've even complained that I'm too kind & diplomatic.
Make up yer cotten pick'n mind!
My gawd...yer a poor translater.
One cannot believe what candidates say.
Their past record in office is the only reliable predictor of what they'll do.
Your question is strange.
One gets a seat in Congress by winning an election, not paying taxes?
This is so obvious, I don't what else you must mean.
We are both shunned?
Oh, dear.
dfnj
Well-Known Member
"Chiiiinaa" Donald Trump
dfnj
Well-Known Member
Crimes of omission are even worse than crimes of commission. Libertarians are the very worse. They are selfish self-centered jerks to don't care if grandma dies in the street.
Someone working a cash register spraying someone in an act of rage-I-quit has is not predicated on one being a Democrat. Republicans are just as much a holes as Democrats. To claim otherwise is pure delusion.
It doesn't matter what the ant-government Republicans and Libertarians think anyway. Marx said laissez faire capitalism is always followed by communism. This is because unfettered greed would result in the government's currency being concentrated in two few hands. Once the currency is concentrated in two few hands it will collapse to having nothing in value. This is exactly what is happening now. Once the currency collapses to nothing millions of people in the breadlines will be begging and screaming for communism. This graph proves Marx is right:
Quandl
Just look at the 3Y version of the curve above. Once the 3 trillion dollars of printed Covad-19 money get's collated to Trump's new found billionaire friends and family then the dollar will probably be worth 1/3 as much. From 2001 to 2016 the price of pizza went from $8 for plain large to $13.50. I imagine we will see $20 pizza within three years.
The only mechanism that would stop collapse of the dollar's value would be a massive redistribution of wealth either though UBI, pay raises, or huge increases taxation on the billionaires paying for free-stuff. But this will never happen because the Libertarians are for long term communism. I've been thinking of a possible solution of UBI controlled by the Fed where the amount being sent was money printed by the Fed. This way the Fed had a mechanism to fight inflation while keeping the economy robust independent of the cartels and monopolies gouging consumers.
The problems of our country are not rocket science. Corporations are legally responsible to do whatever it takes without any morals and ethics to provide maximum returns to the shareholder. I have had many conversations with libertarians on whether having a livable wage is necessary. Every single libertarian I've talked to say having people being slaves is not a problem. No libertarian I've talked to has ever said they drawn the line at livable wages. All of them claim the only right solution is no controls at all. The problem is we have no free-markets in this country. The whole system of the economy is rigged in favor of the CEOs, billionaires, and Corporations. The billionaires and CEOs pay the lobbyists to pass legislation creating cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing. The result is the American worker is gouged to the hilt and has become an economic slave.
The words of FDR are more true today than when he spoke them during the Great Depression era of 90% taxes:
"An old English judge once said: 'Necessitous men are not free men.' Liberty requires opportunity to make a living - a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for. For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor - other people's lives. For too many of us life was no longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness. Against economic tyranny such as this, the American citizen could appeal only to the organized power of government."
We've had 30 years of tax breaks for the rich and the gutting of consumer and environmental protections. Unless we have UBI along with Universal healthcare the dollar will collapse to nothing in value. Marx is right in claiming laissez faire capitalism is unstable. No matter what laissez faire capitalism creates crisis after crisis. Communism of some degree is needed to stabilize the excesses of inequality caused by people inevitably rigging the system to fail and create a new crisis.
But as George Carlin says NOTHING will ever change:
Revoltingest has a "red, white, and blue --roster-- jammed up his --hole-- everyday". The sad thing is Revoltingest is the true communist because people like him are responsible for the collapse of the dollar's value.
See you in the breadlines comrades!
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Not all cashiers have a screen. The response to Covid-19 in the U.S. has been slow and lack-luster. There is no uniformity of regulation nor uniform enforcement of regulation. The death toll here reflects that reality.
To be fair, you've never met Grangran.
And I fixed your post.
I wholeheartedly agree.
And I greatly appreciate that you get this as the intent of this thread.
Again, I agree.
It's like we're sharing one brain, eh.
It's true.
Nothing I think ever makes a difference out there in the real world.
One thing I can claim though....
My not having any influence on the real world is at least benign.
Marx's malignant musings have resulted in continual catastrophic carnage.
(It's National Alliteration Day in Revoltistan.)
I hope you're not accusing me of being a patriot.
I've never said anything so horrid about you even in jest.
Y'all might see me....I'll be handing out bread.
I'm making hay from depressed stock prices.
Mortgaged the house to borrow money to buy stocks....
IBM, CVS, Delta, & others.
dfnj
Well-Known Member
The thing is although I do appreciate your intelligent mind and thoughtful post I would just like to make one comment on what I would consider a fallacious argument. You've heard the old adage for Lord Acton, "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" although I am paraphrasing the actual quote. The point I am making is corruption in government has NOTHING to do with whether a government is left-wing or right -wing. The idea that all left-wing governments are guaranteed to be corrupt is just propaganda. As if the implication is having right-wing governments is the only answer because they are not corrupt.
People have needs and desires. It is our needs and desires which are the source of all that is evil in the World. Human nature is the problem. Having bad actors in positions of power who turn on the people they have power over has nothing to do with the form of government. Here are two really great books on how power corrupts:
https://www.amazon.com/Powerholders-David-Kipnis/dp/0226437310
And,
https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Power-David-Kipnis/dp/0387970827/ref=sr_1_1
In the Power and Technology one Kipnis uses plays of Shakespeare showing how power and the exercise of power corrupts the mind.
Yes, left-wing governments in the past have had leaders who were insanely corrupt and evil. But this has nothing to do with good government as this video claims:
You cannot deny Marx makes some very good criticisms against laissez faire capitalism. I am just sick and tired of the endless propaganda we cannot have any degree of communism while implicitly saying and promoting economic slavery as our only answer.
Reich wing governments are just as corrupt as left wing ones!
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Benito Mussolini
I apologize. It's not that I am against this country it's just that I am against all forms of political and religions fandom. I am okay with comic book fandom!
Thank you for your service.