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[SkepticThinker]

Ya, my a....OP pretty much SOLIDLY shows strong evidence of how they are the same. But, no refutation of course, as i predicted when i made this thread. No one, not one, has refutted ANY of my OB. Just DENY. Thats it.

Huh? There are refutations of your OP all over this thread.

What your OP and subsequent posts indicate is that you don't know the definition of either communism or socialism and continually conflate the two.

Climate always changes.

Man made global warming, alarmism is BS.



Hey, the evidence is strongly in favor that God made it all. The evidence is not on your side if your an atheist.



Ahhhh, actually, no, the democrate party has the history of racism. And STILL does.



What a crock a ****. The democrats just PRETEND to care about the poor just to get votes.

Growing the economy, which republicans do better at then democrats, that HELPS the poor. You dont help the poor by handouts.



You lefties are absolutely mind blowing. There is no cure for the sickness of leftism. It is the worst mental sickness on the planet.

 

[Jollybear]

I'm more of a left-leaning centrist, maybe you should've asked before assuming what my position is.

I'm not running around calling you an alt-right fascist so maybe you could try with a bit more civility.

A centrist is nothing more then a fence sitter. A left leaning centrist is a communist in disguise.

And actually its impossible for me to be a fascist. Communists ARE ALSO fascists. You cannot have communism without fascism.

Common sense. But, oh wait for it.......leftists dont have common sense! Lol

 

[Jollybear]

Well it has been pointed out that you actually provided excellent evidence of a fundamental difference thus refuted yourself SOLIDLY in the OP

And i already dealt with this point, yet you repeat it as if i never dealt with it.

But, of course, you did that because your a leftist. Thats what leftists do. Lol

 

[SkepticThinker]

A centrist is nothing more then a fence sitter. A left leaning centrist is a communist in disguise.

And actually its impossible for me to be a fascist. Communists ARE ALSO fascists. You cannot have communism without fascism.

Common sense. But, oh wait for it.......leftists dont have common sense! Lol

Historically speaking, fascism has been considered a right-wing ideology. So it's not impossible for you to be a fascist.

Centrists are simply people with moderate political views.

You really need to get more familiar with the terms you are using.

 

[Skreeper]

A centrist is nothing more then a fence sitter. A left leaning centrist is a communist in disguise.

And actually its impossible for me to be a fascist. Communists ARE ALSO fascists. You cannot have communism without fascism.

Common sense. But, oh wait for it.......leftists dont have common sense! Lol

I mean if your goal is to make the right look like unhinged lunatics then you're doing a fantastic job.

Can I get an amen?

 

[oldbadger]

Actually, REALITY technically decides who won.

Reality does not care about majority vote..

That's what tyrannical dictators shout.

But democracy is what it's all about..... hence, Democrats.

 

[Jollybear]

Historically speaking, fascism has been considered a right-wing ideology. So it's not impossible for you to be a fascist.

Centrists are simply people with moderate political views.

You really need to get more familiar with the terms you are using.

Actually, let me clarify and correct myself half way.

All communists MUST be fascists. But all fascists are not all communists.

In otherwords, IF i wer a king and a fascists, i would use my authoritarian power to grant MAXIMUM liberty and capitalism within my country.

So, yea, all communists are by default fascists, but not all fascists are communists.

 

[Jollybear]

That's what tyrannical dictators shout.

Good lord

Reality is reality despite what the zombies vote. Common sense man. Come on now.

But democracy is what it's all about..... hence, Democrats.

Ya and the founding fathers did not believe in that. Thomas jefferson "democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on whats for lunch and the lamb protesting the vote".

And democracy is only good when its electing your representatives. And those representatives had to uphold the constitution. The people, the voters, nor the representatives wer or are above the constitution. That kind of voting the founders wer for. They wer NOT for voting other peoples liberties and rights away.

 

[Jollybear]

I mean if your goal is to make the right look like unhinged lunatics then you're doing a fantastic job.

Can I get an amen?

Id rather be a lunatic whos in the right vs a normal zombie in the wrong.

 

[Jollybear]

Huh? There are refutations of your OP all over this thread.

What your OP and subsequent posts indicate is that you don't know the definition of either communism or socialism and continually conflate the two.

Oh yes, i know there definitions and i gave them in my OP and those definitions i did NOT make up. I got them from google dictionary.

 

[oldbadger]

Good lord

Reality is reality despite what the zombies vote. Common sense man. Come on now.

Ya and the founding fathers did not believe in that. Thomas jefferson "democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on whats for lunch and the lamb protesting the vote".

And democracy is only good when its electing your representatives. And those representatives had to uphold the constitution. The people, the voters, nor the representatives wer or are above the constitution. That kind of voting the founders wer for. They wer NOT for voting other peoples liberties and rights away.

Ha ha!
And so you don't believe in Democracy! Stalin didn't, either.

This begins to fit with extremist fundamental Christianity....

So do you also believe in a kind of Theocracy or Theonomy, where a very small selection of OT laws are clinged to whereby Gays, adulteresses, girls who date men before marriage... etc can be publicly executed?

Do you believe in the suppression of free speech, because the extreme Christian websites and forums surely do...?

Do you ignore the many poor laws written in to the Laws of Moses?

In fact, do you grasp to the laws that you think justify a dreadful society while insisting that Jesus redacted the wonderful ones? Cherry picking for tyranny?

If so....... if so.... you need to understand that it's the extremist Christian nuts in North America who are chasing away a remarkable % of kind, loving understanding Christians each year.

If so...... you must think that we're all easy meat for fanatacism.

We ain't!

 

[Augustus]

And i already dealt with this point, yet you repeat it as if i never dealt with it.

But, of course, you did that because your a leftist. Thats what leftists do. Lol

Thought it worth repeating in light of your claims about reality being the judge

I'm also not remotely a "leftist", localism doesn't fit neatly into your child-like worldview that you appear to have gained from half understanding one of those "conservative" talking heads who just say stupid stuff they don't even believe cos they know there are a few people who lack the wits to understand this.

This is how you "dealt with it" too:

Republicans increasing tax = anti-communism
Republicans restricting free trade = anti-communism
Democrat with 70% tax rate = anti-communism
Democrat with 40% tax rate = communism
Democrat tax cut = communism
Democrat helping private business = communism
Democrat helping home owners = communism
Trotsky = anti-communist

What you don't seem to realise is that of all the political ideologies in human history, modern centre left and centre right are among the most similar of all. They are 99% the same, yet you seem to think there is an actual revolution in the political system when one replaces the other

In otherwords, IF i wer a king and a fascists, i would use my authoritarian power to grant MAXIMUM liberty and capitalism within my country.

So, yea, all communists are by default fascists, but not all fascists are communists.

It gets better...

"If i were a fascist I'd implement an authoritarian form of extreme libertarian fascism"

Might as well say "If I were a localist, I'd implement a highly centralised one world government" or, "if I were a blizzard, I'd be a hot summers day with a gentle cooling breeze."

 

[Valjean]

Where has "an authoritarian form of extreme libertarian fascism" ever worked?

 

[Augustus]

Where has "an authoritarian form of extreme libertarian fascism" ever worked?

Works anywhere you can combine it with a republican monarchy and laissez-faire totalitarianism

 

[Jollybear]

Thought it worth repeating in light of your claims about reality being the judge

I'm also not remotely a "leftist", localism doesn't fit neatly into your child-like worldview that you appear to have gained from half understanding one of those "conservative" talking heads who just say stupid stuff they don't even believe cos they know there are a few people who lack the wits to understand this.

This is how you "dealt with it" too:

Republicans increasing tax = anti-communism
Republicans restricting free trade = anti-communism
Democrat with 70% tax rate = anti-communism
Democrat with 40% tax rate = communism
Democrat tax cut = communism
Democrat helping private business = communism
Democrat helping home owners = communism
Trotsky = anti-communist

What you don't seem to realise is that of all the political ideologies in human history, modern centre left and centre right are among the most similar of all. They are 99% the same, yet you seem to think there is an actual revolution in the political system when one replaces the other



It gets better...

"If i were a fascist I'd implement an authoritarian form of extreme libertarian fascism"

Might as well say "If I were a localist, I'd implement a highly centralised one world government" or, "if I were a blizzard, I'd be a hot summers day with a gentle cooling breeze."

I wish i had time to read and respond to every post because id embarrass all of you. Unfortanately, if i did that, id be not doing anything else.

Alot of what you said contorted what i was saying in its essence.

I dont care how you define words, lets just use them consistently so we undetstand eachother.

Let me make this simple. Political spectrum. Right, middle, left.

Right is less regulations, less tax (i.e small government). Left is more regulation, more tax (i.e big government). Middle are people who cant make up there mind.

Big government = communism.

Its really, that simple.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Its not christian to get government to take from the ritch to give to the poor. Its christian to take and direct your own money to the poor. The otherway is theft and theft is UN-CHRISTIAN. Youve tikpped it upside down. Ever see those horrer movies where the demon tips the cross upside down? Well, ya, satan does that with everything.

So you're not okay with the Jubilee Year and Sabbatical Year?

 

[Sand Dancer]

So, communisms history was not one of death?

No more than Christian or Islamic.

 

[oldbadger]

And actually its impossible for me to be a fascist. Communists ARE ALSO fascists. You cannot have communism without fascism.

Ha ha ha! Like... you think that Mussolini was a Communist?

How bizarre. ....... obtuse.

 

[oldbadger]

Ya, sure, i didnt study jews or christians. Right. I only read the bible 30 times throlugh and studied it over 30 years too. But, ya, i didnt study it, lol..

No....... you no have clue about the bible.
You certainly never studied the poor laws of Moses.

Such ignorance.

 

[Jollybear]

So you're not okay with the Jubilee Year and Sabbatical Year?

There is a difference between debt forgiveness and communism.

Secondly, the law of Moses was not against creditors making money. He was against excessive interest rates.


Deuteronomy 23

9Do not charge a fellow Israelite interest, whether on money or food or anything else that may earn interest. 20You may charge a foreigner interest,

Proberbs 28:8

"Income from charging high interest rates will end up in the pocket of someone who is kind to the poor."

Deuteronomy 15

"1At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts. 2This is how it is to be done: Every creditor shall cancel any loan they have made to a fellow Israelite. They shall not require payment from anyone among their own people, because the Lord’s time for canceling debts has been proclaimed. 3You may require payment from a foreigner, but you must cancel any debt your fellow Israelite owes you."

Summery: communism taxes everyone in order to subsidize all benefits.

Lending money with no or low interest rates and forgiving debt every seven years or in the case the jubalee year, which was every 50 years.

This is not communism because your still paying for your house or getting a loan, which you are paying on yourself.

The USA bailed out banks and still peoples houses got foreclosed. Thats backwards. Thats communism right there at work.

The mosaic way is banks make SOME money, but they certainly dont get ritch. And peoples debts are forgiven. But they MUST pay those debts during the alotted time.

There is a big difference.

In the communist system it leads to collaps. Under a debt forgiveness system and low interest system, it dont.