esmith
Veteran Member
but they still win, doesn't bode well for the Dem's in the upcoming mid-terms does it.
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Democrats Lose Again.
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esmith
Veteran Member
see my #20 post.
Underhill
Well-Known Member
Where do you get these suggestions? Certainly not from your link...
Underhill
Well-Known Member
Are you out of your mind? Of course it bodes well. They gained 18% over the last election. If they pick up that many votes in other districts they would gain control of the house and senate in a landslide.
It's a bummer Ossoff didn't win, but not particularly surprising, given the entrenched political lean of the area.
It is heartening to see that such a race was that close.
So far, Republicans have shown that they can hold on to deeply Republican areas. Again, disappointing, but not surprising or even alarming.
The trick will be if Democrats can regain the swing states, and those that recently went Red last election.
By and by, it bothers me that money from out-of-state can be used for a state election. State officials should be representing the people of that state, not people from elsewhere. There should be a residency requirement for donations for state level elections.
It is heartening to see that such a race was that close.
So far, Republicans have shown that they can hold on to deeply Republican areas. Again, disappointing, but not surprising or even alarming.
The trick will be if Democrats can regain the swing states, and those that recently went Red last election.
By and by, it bothers me that money from out-of-state can be used for a state election. State officials should be representing the people of that state, not people from elsewhere. There should be a residency requirement for donations for state level elections.
Bingo. As you imply, the conservatives here are missing the larger significance of the election returns. As the author below notes, the Republican congressman that left his job, Tom Price, was selected for, among other reasons, the assumption that his seat was safe and would definitely be won by Republican. It was, but by a 17 point narrower margin than Price had won it (emphasis below mine) :
Jon Ossoff’s narrow loss means Democrats are on track to take House and Senate in 2018 midterms
Jon Ossoff’s narrow loss means Democrats are on track to take House and Senate in 2018 midterms
By Bill Palmer
Updated: 10:33 pm EDT Tue Jun 20, 2017 | 7
Home » Opinion
"The special election in Georgia’s 6th District has been called in favor of Republican candidate Karen Handel over Democrat Jon Ossoff, according to CNN. This was not the outcome that the Democratic Party and the anti-Trump resistance were looking for. But the numbers coming out of GA-06 confirm that the Democrats are on track to take the House and Senate in the 2018 midterm elections.
"The final votes are still being tallied, but it looks like Handel’s margin of victory will be somewhere around four points, perhaps five. This tells us that a district as firmly red as the GA-06 may not be winnable for the Democrats even with Donald Trump imploding and spilling his own toxic unpopularity onto the Republican Party. But it also tells us that every district less red than the GA-06 is definitely winnable for the Democrats in the midterms – and that’s the majority of districts around the nation.
"For reference, Republican candidate Tom Price just won the GA-06 by a twenty-one point margin back in November (source). One of the reasons Donald Trump plucked Price for his cabinet was that the Republican Party was absolutely certain the Democrats couldn’t compete for his seat in a special election. And it turns out Trump’s toxicity has already sucked seventeen points of life out that overwhelmingly red district since November.
"In fact all of these recent special elections have been the result of vacancies that the Trump administration created in red districts and red states because it thought they were all completely safe for the Republicans – and yet we keep seeing that the GOP can barely retain even the seats it thought were the safest in the nation. By design, all of these special elections were supposed to be double digit blowouts for the Republican Party. Yet not one of them has come close to going according to the GOP’s plan.
"So while this was certainly not the outcome that the Democratic Party and its supporters were hoping for in Georgia, tonight was further evidence that the Republicans are completely screwed in the midterms. The Republican Party will struggle to retain seats in even the solid-red districts, while the Democrats are in position to make major gains in the moderate districts, while retaining all of their existing blue district seats. Any Republican who thinks tonight was good news, and any Democrat who thinks tonight was bad news, is misunderstanding the math."
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IANS: Don't think that the significance of this is lost on sitting Republican congresspersons. This is another signal that it's time for the party to distance itself from Trump and throw hum under the bus. If Trump doesn't resign first, he will likely be impeached or motions made in that direction by the midterms.
Actually, they mobilized their base pretty effectively even if the outcome wasn't what they wanted. In other contested districts that are more politically diverse, they have a decent shot at flipping the House. Their ultimate success, however, is uncertain.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Ah, yes, because one liberal madman absolves Republicans of any nastiness, and allows ya'll to pretend that there's never been any conservative-motivated acts of terror.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Uhhh...anyone shooting Democrats?
An act by a single individual should not sway the discussion we are referring to. Come on, step above the needless polarization, you are better than that!
The one that in no way whatsoever connects to my post that you quoted?
I saw it. It is still quite unconnected to mine. And it sure did not convince me to revise my statements.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
An act by a single individual should not sway the discussion we are referring to. Come on, step above the needless polarization, you are better than that!
Ok. I call you the next time we get into a gun control thread. Also, facts are tricky little devils.
Yes, democrats have been victims of conservative driven violence as well. Though, their primary victims tend to be minorities and Muslims.
Regardless, the fact that conservatives can be murderers does not mean democrats get to be pompous ********. The same applies to Republicans.
That they are. Gun control is a big problem and I have nothing really to offer.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
The fact you're willing to use a shooting to score political points and denigrate more than half of Americas voters is disgusting to me.
Grow up.
Altfish
Veteran Member
I assume you forgot about Gabrielle Giffords?
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
You can't expect too much from deplorables...
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I had to admit that I laughed, but not at your attempt at sarcastic humor but at your short-sightedness.Well despite out-of-state campaign contributions of over $26 million in the George race to fill the seat of Tom Price the Democrats were handed another defeat, which was also handed to them in South Carolina. I guess the Democrats haven't gotten the word yet......their message(do they have any?) is being rejected.
Links for the losers:
and a special emoticon for y'all
When was the last time the Dems won that district? [I think it was 1978] What had Price won his last election by? [I believe it was over 20 points-- much more than yesterday] What about the vote in South Carolina, whereas the Pubs won but by a very narrow margin, much closer than it should have been in that red district in that red state?
Some of the Republican commentators last night, such a Steve Schmidt, said that the Republicans are in deep trouble for 2018 based on the way things look in the last four state elections because they were far closer than what it was even two and four years ago when the Republicans won quite handily.
Old people shouldn't be dancing too much, esmith, especially if one is so short-sighted that they can't see what's actually happening. And wait and see what happens when and if the Republicans actually do pass "Trumpcare". I think the response of the public to that will be deafening.
So, enjoy your little party while you can.
Akivah
Well-Known Member
That's the big takeaway from this. If the Dem had won, all the liberal fake news sites would have saturated the air waves. As it is, the story is muted on their sites. And on this site, the Dems are just muttering about 'Republican media'. So what was the $26M that California liberal democrats poured into this election spent on?