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Demons, is there any evidence they even exist?

Audie

Veteran Member
Have you not read any of the posts, Audie?
Billions of worshippers, debates, dialogues, literature, degrees, religious shrines & altars & temples, liturgies, prayers, and conduct, all in the name of religion and spirituality, all throughout the world, and the centuries. And, for the life of you, you cannot deduce that man is intrinsically a spiritual creature?
...and you call yourself a scientist???
Ah so! Astrology is true too. So very many believers so many books.
How can it not be true. Terrif logic n science. I must introduce this
con ept to science.

As for "spiritual endowment" it's a made up term.
Science, even in its lowest form, psychology kind
of needs definable terms.

Now, there clearly are reasons that people e are superstitious.
I'm no psychologist, I don't know what it is in people that
results in superstition.
You may be referring to this as " spiritual" and and
wonderful.
Now a new term, " spiritual creature".
What " spiritual" means has been gone over in dozens of
threads, to no effect but more " lo here" and "lo there".

As a religionist, that no doubt seems fine, realistic and
probably quite wonderful to you.

Some of what leads to superstition being organized and
betide es enforced is obvious.

So is the lasting effect on little children when the are indoctrinated
in the way of thinking involved. That too is seen as wondrrful.

It's pretty easy to see why superdtitions are transmitted
are generated and passed down, grow, proloferate and
get more organized.

A study of the history of medicine is most instructive
in how that goes.

Shall we make that a Sign that mankind is a "xxxx creature"
and " xxxx endowed" and make up,a word in place of xxxx?

I'm not a scientist, never represented that I was.
You simply made it up, calling me a scientist.

It's a pattern I see in religionists.

I'm no,scientist but I've an eye for lllogical iking,
unsupportable claims, facts not in evidence, etc.

Your rhetoric is a repository of such.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Really, ultimately it will depend on whether one want to believe our not because we have the capacity to come up with reasons not to believe to the point that we can even be convinced that we never went to the moon. It was all optical illusions (as declared by those who don't believe)

1953, May 9-19 (ca.): The Invisible Fangs

This was a well documented case. It was in the newspapers, the tv outlets et al in the Philippines. Lester Sumrall was the vehicle God used to free the girl.
The anecdotal mythical example is one of many like aliens and Chinese dragons.

As far as human journeys to the moon we can look through telescopes and see the evidence.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Ah so! Astrology is true too. So very many believers so many books.
How can it not be true. Terrif logic n science. I must introduce this
con ept to science.

As for "spiritual endowment" it's a made up term.
Science, even in its lowest form, psychology kind
of needs definable terms.

Now, there clearly are reasons that people e are superstitious.
I'm no psychologist, I don't know what it is in people that
results in superstition.
You may be referring to this as " spiritual" and and
wonderful.
Now a new term, " spiritual creature".
What " spiritual" means has been gone over in dozens of
threads, to no effect but more " lo here" and "lo there".

As a religionist, that no doubt seems fine, realistic and
probably quite wonderful to you.

Some of what leads to superstition being organized and
betide es enforced is obvious.

So is the lasting effect on little children when the are indoctrinated
in the way of thinking involved. That too is seen as wondrrful.

It's pretty easy to see why superdtitions are transmitted
are generated and passed down, grow, proloferate and
get more organized.

A study of the history of medicine is most instructive
in how that goes.

Shall we make that a Sign that mankind is a "xxxx creature"
and " xxxx endowed" and make up,a word in place of xxxx?

I'm not a scientist, never represented that I was.
You simply made it up, calling me a scientist.

It's a pattern I see in religionists.

I'm no,scientist but I've an eye for lllogical iking,
unsupportable claims, facts not in evidence, etc.

Your rhetoric is a repository of such.
That argumentum ad populum from the side that doesn't have evidence will be much appreciated by Islam, since it is the fastest growing religion in the World. Once it is the most popular, according to the logic in that post, it will be truly the correct, true religion. Also Coke is the best liquid to drink that there is, since it is the most popular soft drink in the World.

When you eliminate evidence and focus on belief and logical fallacies, then everything is correct.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
The anecdotal mythical example is one of many like aliens and Chinese dragons.

As far as human journeys to the moon we can look through telescopes and see the evidence.
It is always good to see claims documented by obscure, unknown, one off events that remain unexplained. An extensive argument from ignorance.

I don't believe in the moon.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Ah so! Astrology is true too. So very many believers so many books.
How can it not be true. Terrif logic n science. I must introduce this
con ept to science.

As for "spiritual endowment" it's a made up term.
Science, even in its lowest form, psychology kind
of needs definable terms.

Now, there clearly are reasons that people e are superstitious.
I'm no psychologist, I don't know what it is in people that
results in superstition.
You may be referring to this as " spiritual" and and
wonderful.
Now a new term, " spiritual creature".
What " spiritual" means has been gone over in dozens of
threads, to no effect but more " lo here" and "lo there".

As a religionist, that no doubt seems fine, realistic and
probably quite wonderful to you.

Some of what leads to superstition being organized and
betide es enforced is obvious.

So is the lasting effect on little children when the are indoctrinated
in the way of thinking involved. That too is seen as wondrrful.

It's pretty easy to see why superdtitions are transmitted
are generated and passed down, grow, proloferate and
get more organized.

A study of the history of medicine is most instructive
in how that goes.

Shall we make that a Sign that mankind is a "xxxx creature"
and " xxxx endowed" and make up,a word in place of xxxx?

I'm not a scientist, never represented that I was.
You simply made it up, calling me a scientist.

It's a pattern I see in religionists.

I'm no,scientist but I've an eye for lllogical iking,
unsupportable claims, facts not in evidence, etc.

Your rhetoric is a repository of such.
Until now, I discounted astrology, but seeing the power of popularity in action, I suppose we will all have to accept it as true.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
The anecdotal mythical example is one of many like aliens and Chinese dragons.

As far as human journeys to the moon we can look through telescopes and see the evidence.
Yes... but we don't have evidence of mythical aliens. Our records show that we have eyewitnesses of resurrection.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Ifn ya'd studied comparative VERTEBRATE anatomy instead
of comp bugology ya'd be more apt ta see such things
I wanted to study it, but my school couldn't afford dragons for dissection. And what is the point of bothering if can get dragons, Bigfoot or a Nessie to dissect.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Yes... but we don't have evidence of mythical aliens. Our records show that we have eyewitnesses of resurrection.
Ah . . . no we do not have eyewitness accounts of the Resurrection. All accounts are later compilations which lack provenance dated not even near the life of Jesus. We have many claims of recent first hand accounts of UFOs and aliens, some very recent documented accounts by reliable military sources.
 
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