Depravity

[InChrist]

Just so you know, Disney's first rated R film was way back in the 80s. Just published under Touchstone, a Disney owned company. I think we're just now, with easily searchable internet, understanding how big and diverse companies like Disney are.

Thank you for the information. I am aware that Disney’s standards declined years ago. Just the subject matter of cannibalism and a guy seducing women to carve them up, seems over the top for a theme for movie entertainment, in my view.

 

[InChrist]

Making a judgement on ones own actions, decisions, or whatnot isn't the same as judging the actions of another. I find the latter worse

So in your view, is it wrong to judge a person who is raping a three child? Or how about judging someone who poisons your cat? Is every behavior acceptable?

 

[Sand Dancer]

I meant "judge not, lest ye be judged".

Cannibals tend to eat their own dead. Not kill others for it. It's a symbolic ritual event meant to used for honoring the recently deceased.

Cannibalism—the Ultimate Taboo—Is Surprisingly Common

Catholics think they are actually eating/drinking Christ's body/blood, and that's common.

 

[The Hammer]

So in your view, is it wrong to judge a person who is raping a three child? Or how about judging someone who poisons your cat? Is every behavior acceptable?

It depends on the motive and intent behind what they are doing.

What led that person to make this particular decision?

Abuse, trauma, mental health, drugs? There are very very very few "bad" people in the world @InChrist .

 

[Father Heathen]

Selective outrage?

Of course it is, especially when the target of such outrage is misrepresented.
I highly doubt this TV show or whatever is àctually glorifying cannibalism or presenting it as a positive thing.

Remember, these are the same dopes who soiled their panties over Harry Potter, and thus don't deserve to be taken seriously.

 

[ChristineM]

Just because Disney owns Hulu. Doesn't make this a Disney movie. Seems like a bit of a non sequitur.

What exactly is wrong with Hulu depicting cannibalism in a Movie? Did you know that cannibalism is still practiced in many parts of the world?

Only a couple of weeks ago a guy in an asylum (not too far from us)1 for eating his victims with white beans (don't ask because i don't know why) escaped and attacked someone else before being chased off then recaptured, luckily he didn't do much damage

French cannibal attacks again after escape from custody

 

[InChrist]

It depends on the motive and intent behind what they are doing.

What led that person to make this particular decision?

Abuse, trauma, mental health, drugs? There are very very very few "bad" people in the world @InChrist .

I understand there may be reasons why people do things, but I don’t think those reasons are excuses for committing harmful actions.

 

[InChrist]

Of course it is, especially when the target of such outrage is misrepresented.
I highly doubt this TV show or whatever is àctually glorifying cannibalism or presenting it as a positive thing.

Remember, these are the same dopes who soiled their panties over Harry Potter, and thus don't deserve to be taken seriously.

So do you think a movie about a guy seducing women to carve them up for cannibalism is a healthy form of entertainment?
I don’t know about “dopes who soiled their panties over Harry Potter”. Who are you referring to?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Thank you for the information. I am aware that Disney’s standards declined years ago. Just the subject matter of cannibalism and a guy seducing women to carve them up, seems over the top for a theme for movie entertainment, in my view.

I don't think having dark, violent subject material in fiction necessitates either a bad story or agreement with or desensitization to the subject.

There have been some excellent works that have cannibalism, such as Silence of the Lambs or Sweeny Todd, where we learn something about poverty, the human psyche or other themes.

I doubt this particular movie is trying to do much more than shock people which..I guess, mission achieved. To me that's a boring way to write.

 

[Audie]

As the culture sinks further into depravity, even Disney the once family-friendly company, is now producing a new movie with degrading evil. Does this surprise you or are you already desensitized to this type of content?

”Fresh, the new horror film to be shown on Disney-owned streaming platform Hulu, has been panned by critics who were stunned by the film's unexpectedly gory plot: a serial killer cannibal who carves women up after seducing them and sells their body parts to rich people to eat.”

Critics pan Disney's 'disgusting' new cannibal movie Fresh | Daily Mail Online

Theres a book about an angel going about killing the firstborn of
Egypt, desperate parents trying to save their
children from flood...maybe theyre already desensitized

 

[The Hammer]

I understand there may be reasons why people do things, but I don’t think those reasons are excuses for committing harmful actions.

It's not an excuse. It's a reason. A reason that these people need help and not just considered human trash as they are now. Rehabilitation is better then punishment.

"Reason implies that fault is sincerely recognized and accepted…. that you step up and take accountability for your actions. An excuse exists to justify, blame or defend a fault… "

 

[The Hammer]

I don’t know about “dopes who soiled their panties over Harry Potter”. Who are you referring to?

Religious debates over the Harry Potter series - Wikipedia

 

[danieldemol]

As the culture sinks further into depravity, even Disney the once family-friendly company, is now producing a new movie with degrading evil. Does this surprise you or are you already desensitized to this type of content?

”Fresh, the new horror film to be shown on Disney-owned streaming platform Hulu, has been panned by critics who were stunned by the film's unexpectedly gory plot: a serial killer cannibal who carves women up after seducing them and sells their body parts to rich people to eat.”

Critics pan Disney's 'disgusting' new cannibal movie Fresh | Daily Mail Online

I wouldn't watch it personally (sounds boring to me).

But there have always been cultural elements that seek to shock using portrayals of depravity.

To give them so much publicity by raving on about it just seems counter-productive to me. And to take it a step further than that and claim the whole culture is descending into depravity over the portrayal of depravity by a few elements comes across as slander to me.

In my opinion.

 

[fantome profane]

So do you think the practice of cannibalism is acceptable or should be a subject for entertainment? Is watching a movie about cannibalism and a guy seducing woman to carve them up uplifting or degrading or what, in your opinion?

Do you think gun violence is perfectly acceptable and should be a subject for entertainment?

How about sword fights? Or explosions?

Or how about crucifixion? Is that perfectly acceptable? Is that a source of entertainment?

 

[InChrist]

Religious debates over the Harry Potter series - Wikipedia

Thank you for the information.
I didn’t notice anything about dopes soiling their panties.

 

[fantome profane]

I am one of those depraved individuals that love horror movies. Gore for gore sake isn’t necessarily my favourite sub genre of horror, still I might go look this one up. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

 

[InChrist]

I wouldn't watch it personally (sounds boring to me).

But there have always been cultural elements that seek to shock using portrayals of depravity.

To give them so much publicity by raving on about it just seems counter-productive to me. And to take it a step further than that and claim the whole culture is descending into depravity over the portrayal of depravity by a few elements comes across as slander to me.

In my opinion.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I agree to a certain extent. It just seems to me that the element of depravity is taking place in more than a few areas, but across many.

 

[The Hammer]

Thank you for the information.
I didn’t notice anything about dopes soiling their panties.

That is an idiom meaning "people getting unnecessarily upset at nothing".

 

[SomeRandom]

As the culture sinks further into depravity, even Disney the once family-friendly company, is now producing a new movie with degrading evil. Does this surprise you or are you already desensitized to this type of content?

”Fresh, the new horror film to be shown on Disney-owned streaming platform Hulu, has been panned by critics who were stunned by the film's unexpectedly gory plot: a serial killer cannibal who carves women up after seducing them and sells their body parts to rich people to eat.”

Critics pan Disney's 'disgusting' new cannibal movie Fresh | Daily Mail Online

First of all, Disney owns like a quarter or more of all entertainment, but only products released under the label are considered canon by fans. Everything else produced is just another product by another company who just happens to be owned by the conglomerate. This is because they bought several companies with products that weren’t exactly family friendly to begin with. Hell they technically own Family Guy, since they bought Fox. You really going to tell me that the adult comedy is in keeping with Disney’s family friendly image?

Secondly, cannibalism isn’t exactly new to cinema. The cult classic The Hills Have Eyes from the freaking 70s did that. Cannibal Holocaust comes to mind. In fact cannibalism films were actually a sub genre of the horror films during the 70s and 80s, made predominantly by Italian directors.
Cannibal film - Wikipedia

And you want to talk to me about depravity? Look no further than the Western (and indeed Eastern) literary canon. Just for example the Libertine movement of the 1500s. Who would juxtapose their philosophical writings with hardcore porn. (No seriously.)
If anything we’re rather tame by comparison in terms of entertainment. Shakespeare was quite gory and dirty (ever seen Titus Andronicus?)The Canterbury Tales are bawdy as hell and well the Greco/Roman myths aren’t exactly something you should be reading as a bedtime story to your kids.

 

[InChrist]

Do you think gun violence is perfectly acceptable and should be a subject for entertainment?

How about sword fights? Or explosions?

Or how about crucifixion? Is that perfectly acceptable? Is that a source of entertainment?

Actually, I don’t think violence is a very healthy form of entertainment. Seeing or understanding violence in historical context can have educational benefits, I think. But I find a film where guy seduces women for the purpose of cannibalism to be an unhealthy form of entertainment.