DeSantis Trying to Force Chaplains in Schools

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Well, if you just concentrate on learning trades and don't teach them to think logically or reason abstractly, thinking on their own likely wouldn't occur to them. Without history or civics instruction they might not think of alternatives, either
A brave new world of peace and stability.

FWIW, tech classes were my first exposure to formal logic (in my digital electronics classes). They were also the only classes that emphasized testing one's knowledge: your mark for your electrical assignment was based on whether everything worked when your wiring board was plugged in.

 

[Valjean]

In school they need to concentrate on their studies. Particularly when in classes are in session.

Their studies wouldn't include alternative ideas, ideologies, methods or solutions. Just keep them in the dark, concentrating on their bricklaying, home economics, auto mechanics or farming studies, and noöne will have to worry about radical, dissenting troublemakers.

 

[We Never Know]

Who would pay for the studies? Wouldn't we have to give the various religions equal time? Would teaching contradictory facts in different classes cause any problems?

That's a weak bogus arguement but I will entertain it using another controversial subject..

Genders..so far there are 70+

Which of the 70+ genders get precedence? Wouldn't we have to give the various genders equal time? Would teaching about different genders cause any problems?

How Many Genders Are There? All 72 Genders List

How many genders are there? Besides male and female, here is a list of all 72 other gender identities that a person may belong to. How can I help my child understand gender identity?

www.medicinenet.com

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

That's a weak bogus arguement but I will entertain it using another controversial subject..

Genders..so far there are 70+

Which of the 70+ genders get precedence? Wouldn't we have to give the various genders equal time? Would teaching about different genders cause any problems?

How Many Genders Are There? All 72 Genders List

How many genders are there? Besides male and female, here is a list of all 72 other gender identities that a person may belong to. How can I help my child understand gender identity?

www.medicinenet.com

"Dude... respecting other people as actual human beings is so hard! Who has the time?"

 

[We Never Know]

"Dude... respecting other people as actual human beings is so hard! Who has the time?"

Htf does that address my post?

I guess to you religious people aren't actual human beings

 

[Twilight Hue]

Their studies wouldn't include alternative ideas, ideologies, methods or solutions. Just keep them in the dark, concentrating on their bricklaying, home economics, auto mechanics or farming studies, and noöne will have to worry about radical, dissenting troublemakers.

That's what school is for. To learn. Not cause trouble for people.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Htf does that address my post?

It's a dismissive, sarcastic response to you attempt to threadjack a thread with your bigotry.

 

[We Never Know]

It's a dismissive, sarcastic response to you attempt to threadjack a thread with your bigotry.

Oh I see. You accuse me of bigotry because I made a legit comparison with another controversial topic and all the while you are flaunting your bigotry. Got it.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Oh I see. You accuse me of bigotry because I made a legit comparison with another controversial topic and all the while you are flaunting your bigotry. Got it.

No, I accuse you of bigotry because I've seen what you post.

 

[We Never Know]

No, I accuse you of bigotry because I've seen what you post.

Ditto dude

 

[Valjean]

You could as the exact same questions about teaching history. Who would pay for history studies? Wouldn't we have to give various histories equal time? Would teaching contradictory facts in different classes cause any problems?

And those question would be just as absurd.

History is a matter of tangible reality. Its facts are open to research and verification. Many details remain unknown or open to interpretation, of course, but there remains general consensus on major events.
There is no such empirical evidence or consensus in religion.

 

[Valjean]

That's a weak bogus arguement but I will entertain it using another controversial subject..

Genders..so far there are 70+

Which of the 70+ genders get precedence? Wouldn't we have to give the various genders equal time? Would teaching about different genders cause any problems?

How Many Genders Are There? All 72 Genders List

How many genders are there? Besides male and female, here is a list of all 72 other gender identities that a person may belong to. How can I help my child understand gender identity?

www.medicinenet.com

My point is, if you have to employ a half dozen teachers of the various Christian denominations, another half dozen for the Hindus, more for the Muslims, Sikhs, Shintoists, Buddhists, Jews, &al, that could run into real money.
Add the fact that they'd be teaching conflicting doctrines, and you'd get a pretty confused -- if not antagonistic -- student body.

 

[We Never Know]

My point is, if you have to employ a half dozen teachers of the various Christian denominations, another half dozen for the Hindus, more for the Muslims, Sikhs, Shintoists, Buddhists, Jews, &al, that could run into real money.
Add the fact that they'd be teaching conflicting doctrines, and you'd get a pretty confused -- if not antagonistic -- student body.

Teach it like college courses... Don't focus on one, explore many.

You don't need many teachers, Someone with a degree in religious studies would suffice.

Majoring in religious studies offers you a lens into other cultures and perspectives from around the world. You'll learn about different theologies from an academic perspective and gain new insight into how and why people have the beliefs they do, as well as how they express and practice them.

 

[Valjean]

You could as the exact same questions about teaching history. Who would pay for history studies? Wouldn't we have to give various histories equal time? Would teaching contradictory facts in different classes cause any problems?

And those question would be just as absurd.

The point is, there's just One True History. There are conflicting claims and many different interpretations, but history remains fact-based, not faith-based.
Actual, objective facts exist, and are open to research. This is not true of religion.

 

[Soandso]

Teach it like college courses... Don't focus on one, explore many.

You don't need many teachers, Someone with a degree in religious studies would suffice.

Majoring in religious studies offers you a lens into other cultures and perspectives from around the world. You'll learn about different theologies from an academic perspective and gain new insight into how and why people have the beliefs they do, as well as how they express and practice them.

Doesn't theology already exist as a higher education degree?

 

[McBell]

You don't need many teachers, Someone with a degree in religious studies would suffice.

I agree.
With only one teacher teaching about all the religions you only have to deal the prejudices of one person.

 

[We Never Know]

I agree.
With only one teacher teaching about all the religions you only have to deal the prejudices of one person.

"only have to deal the prejudices of one person"

That could be said about teachers of history, biology, etc etc.

 

[We Never Know]

Doesn't theology already exist as a higher education degree?

Majoring in religious studies offers you a lens into other cultures and perspectives from around the world. You'll learn about different theologies from an academic perspective and gain new insight into how and why people have the beliefs they do, as well as how they express and practice them.

 

[McBell]

"only have to deal the prejudices of one person"

That could be said about teachers of history, biology, etc etc.

There is no "could be" about it.

The more people involved in teaching, the more exposure to prejudice.

 

[Valjean]

Teach it like college courses... Don't focus on one, explore many.

You don't need many teachers, Someone with a degree in religious studies would suffice.

Majoring in religious studies offers you a lens into other cultures and perspectives from around the world. You'll learn about different theologies from an academic perspective and gain new insight into how and why people have the beliefs they do, as well as how they express and practice them.

Comparative religion, Sociological implications of religion, History of religions, Psychology of religion, Anthropology of religion -- these I wouldn't object to.
But be warned -- they could make students think, even question. What would parents have to say about this?