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DeSantis Would Be Bad News As Prez

tytlyf

Not Religious
Desantis is Trump light. But dumber. Desantis can't function without a script and/or teleprompter.
He'll get destroyed in the primary debates
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
More dirtbag news.
(Actually, that's unfair to dirtbags.)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Going back to the OP. As long as those dang reporters keep their yaps shut he had a winning strategy. Take a nonproblem Pretend that it is one. Make a big show of "doing something". Then in the next election there is no sign of that sort of cheating (never mind that there was no sign of it before) declare victory and tout how you made the election process more secure. Oh, and the fact that some people that were more likely to oppose one's opponent did not get their right to vote returned to them, even though they should have, that is just a fringe benefit.
 
Desantis is my governor and he does nothing but make bad decisions and get clowned on by Disney. I didn't think we could do worse than Rick Scott. But to be fair I didn't think Rick Scott could be worse than Jeb. Crist wasn't good but compared to the others he was at least palatable.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
In the news....
Excerpted...
ORLANDO — The fallout came fast when Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s new election police unit charged Peter Washington with voter fraud last summer as part of a crackdown against felons who’d allegedly broken the law by casting a ballot.

The Orlando resident lost his job supervising irrigation projects, and along with it, his family’s health insurance. His wife dropped her virtual classes at Florida International University to help pay their rent. Future plans went out the window.

“It knocked me to my knees, if you want to know the truth,” he said.

But not long after, the case against Washington began falling apart. A Ninth Judicial Circuit judge ruled the statewide prosecutor who filed the charges didn’t actually have jurisdiction to do so. Washington’s attorney noted that he had received an official voter identification card in the mail after registering. The case was dismissed in February.

One by one, many of the initial 20 arrests announced by the Office of Election Crimes and Security have stumbled in court. Six cases have been dismissed. Five other defendants accepted plea deals that resulted in no jail time. Only one case has gone to trial, resulting in a split verdict. The others are pending.

In its first nine months, the new unit made just four other arrests, according to a report the agency released earlier this year. Critics say the low numbers point to the overall strength of Florida’s electoral system and a lack of sufficient evidence to pursue further charges. Nonetheless, as he gears up for a possible presidential run, DeSantis is moving to give the office more teeth, asking the legislature to nearly triple the division’s annual budget from $1.2 million to $3.1 million. The Republican governor also pushed through a bill ensuring the statewide prosecutor has jurisdiction over election crime cases — an attempt to resolve an issue several judges have raised in dismissing cases.

Voting rights advocates and defense attorneys say the expansion of the statewide prosecutor’s role to include elections enforcement is alarming. The office was created in 1986, and its portfolio typically includes offenses like extortion, racketeering and computer pornography involving two or more judicial circuits. The statewide prosecutor is appointed by the attorney general, Ashley Moody, a political ally of DeSantis, and also submits an annual report to the governor.
So you feel he would be bad news as president because as governor his administration puts too much effort to make sure criminals don't break certain laws?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
So you feel he would be bad news as president because as governor his administration puts too much effort to make sure criminals don't break certain laws?
Consider the problem of selective prosecution. A tyrant can use the laws to their advantage.

Is that what you mean by the phrase "certain laws"? Is that what it means to put extra effort into "certain laws"?
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Too many people have testified there were irregularities.
Honestly I will never trust the electronic voting system...because paper is something tangible and is much better.

By the way, DeSantis is the anti-Soros of the US. ;)
But you -- as a jurist -- don't trust the fact that those who "testified" did so in open court, in courts that examined all available evidence and concluded, in every case, that there were no irregularities that could have changed the outcome of the election.

Don't you believe in the trial process? That seems odd, in a jurist.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So you feel he would be bad news as president because as governor his administration puts too much effort to make sure criminals don't break certain laws?
Yes.
Because the ratio of justice served per dollar spent is too low.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
Consider the problem of selective prosecution. A tyrant can use the laws to their advantage.

Is that what you mean by the phrase "certain laws"? Is that what it means to put extra effort into "certain laws"?
I think it would be foolish to believe that there is a single state in the Union that enforces every single law on the books equally.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And if you can't get Pi blackwells per dollar, the crime should go unpunished because it costs too much to prosecute. Is this your view?
Not only un-punished, but un-pursued.
Perhaps you find massive spendy efforts to catch a
few voting felons worthwhile. I see it as a waste of
resources. There is more significant crimes that
cops could be devoting time to, eg, thefts, hit-&-runs.
Those are things that I've seen sometimes ignored
because of insufficient (so they say) manpower.

Consider an analogy....
Many places have ended police traffic stops for
minor violations like a bused tail light or giving
a cop the finger. This avoids the cost of time,
money, & risk of escalation to drivers, & diversion
of cop time from pursuing dangerous drivers,
eg, speeders, drunks.
 
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