Fairness says Christian scripture compared to Islamic scripture, not to what you hear in the media that may or may not be true. The Bible vs the Qur'an.
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Did God say that?! I Rape in the bible
- Thread starter Zhakir
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Again, you can show us a Qur'anic verse or hadith that says the raped woman is to be punished/stoned and I am all ears.
Does every action of every Muslim or government that rules some Muslims represent Islam?
Aren't there repressive corrupted undemocratic unIslamic regimes that rule Muslims? Aren't there Muslims who commit crimes? Aren't there Muslims who disobey Allah?
If I drank Alcohol, would this mean Islam approves drinking Alcohol?!
But honestly, I can't imagine a court in the world that acknowledge that a woman is raped and then sentence a punishment on her for being raped, no matter how primitive the ruling regime.
If something like this happened, it would be insanity...and it would be more and more insanity to blame Islam for this.
you gotta be kidding me
I can't imagine it either, but it does happen. Here are a few links for you.
13-year-old Somali girl raped and stoned - Feministing
New York News - Stoning Women to Death - page 1
Luminous
non-existential luminary
As interpreted by its interpreters.
Luminous
non-existential luminary
I for one do not blame Islam. i blame people.
Luminous
non-existential luminary
:sarcastic: was this supposed to improve the conversation in any way?
kai
ragamuffin
Somalia is a dreadful place and this sounds absolutely awful.
How did the woman in Iran fare, this story is a little old.
It is my beleif that Sharia does not exist anywhere on this planet, the laws (if you can call them that) in Somalia are made up by the monsters who perpetrated this killing of this poor girl, whether they claim its Islamic or not the fact is its more to do with Somalia than its to do with the Quran.
The same goes for Iran .
as an example have you heard of the Lords Resistance Army and how do you think they reflect on Christianity .
Lord's Resistance Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
PS: An Update on the Iranian woman.
According to an Amnesty International report: "In November 2006, [Iran's] Supreme Court ruled that the trial verdict was based on insufficient or incomplete evidence, and overturned the sentence of execution by stoning. The case was returned to a lower court for a retrial. In late July or August 2008, the court ruled that Shamemeh Ghorbani should not be stoned to death, but instead she received a sentence of 100 lashes. She was released from prison in Oroumiye, western Iran, where she had been held since 2005, but her sentence may still be implemented.
Malak Ghorbany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Alceste
Vagabond
"What I hear in the media"? Can you please tell me whether you believe Islamic women are not stoned / drowned / beaten / burned to death for losing (or appearing to lose) their virtue? Are you saying all those links to examples of this happening were lies?
A little clarity on your opinion regarding violence toward women in primarily Islamic countries would help move this discussion forward.
I'm not particularly interested in comparing a book to another book. Faith, belief, ethics, morality, goodness, etc. is expressed through the behavior of the believer, not by their holy book. I mean, a person's favorite book will tell you something about them, but a person's behavior will tell you everything.
I'm not defending Christians, here. IMO all the Abrahamic religions are as bad as each other in most ways. I mean, "Christians" might not lash or stone rape victims, but they are more than happy to bomb countries filled with non-Christians, killing women, infants, men, grandparents indiscriminately for their beliefs.
I suppose what I'm really trying to say is, "pot, meet kettle". Whatever your holy books say, Abrahamic religions do not appear to have any beneficial effect on human behavior.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The only one who's saying that the Bible contains "God teaching us to rape." None of the rest of us believe that. None of the rest of us see it. This is a classic straw man argument. Except that you just knocked down your own straw man...
Outstanding!
You are doing Islam no favors.
kai
ragamuffin
(Never mind ... too easy.)
No, you're talking to no one. You are preaching and doing a pitifully poor job at it. You should seriously consider a course in remedial coherence.