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Did Jesus Claim to be God?

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
So Isaiah told a lie on God when he said there is no savior besides me?
Not sure why everyone is a liar because of things being complicated....

To get into heaven, you've got to be a good person; yet with God having ultimate understanding. :innocent:

So Isaiah is right. :)
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
Not sure why everyone is a liar because of things being complicated....

To get into heaven, you've got to be a good person; yet with God having ultimate understanding. :innocent:

So Isaiah is right. :)
So if Isaiah is right and there is no savior besides God that means if there is any true Savior it has to be God.. Luke 2:11 says for unto you is born this day in the city of David a SAVIOR which is Christ the Lord is that the truth? Jesus must be that same one Savior or else Luke told a lie
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Thats a lie..God said throught Isaiah besides me there is no savior Isaiah 43:11 is that the truth ? Which one im supposed to believe you or Isaiah?

Jesus as Messiah did Not arrive until the first century - Luke 3:15. When God resurrected Jesus - Acts of the Apostles 3:15; Galatians 1:1; 1 Thessalonians 1:10; Colossians 2:12 - then Jesus was given the power of the resurrection - Revelation 1:18 - so through Jesus we are ' saved ' from sin and death.
Please notice 2 Peter 1:1-2 because Jesus is mentioned there as our Savior. We are to gain knowledge ( education ) of both God 'AND' Jesus is stressed in verse 2.
So, through our Savior God then Jesus is our Savior.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
So if Isaiah is right and there is no savior besides God that means if there is any true Savior it has to be God.. Luke 2:11 says for unto you is born this day in the city of David a SAVIOR which is Christ the Lord is that the truth? Jesus must be that same one Savior or else Luke told a lie

Please notice Luke 2:14 because the glory does Not go to Jesus, but to his Father. Please also notice Luke 5:25-26 as to who is being glorified.
At Jesus' baptism whose heavenly voice spoke to Jesus ? ____________- Luke 3:22
Whose finger and whose spirit is being used at Luke 11:13 B; Luke 11:20 ?
Who is Jesus praying to at Luke 23:34?
So, Luke is Not telling a lie because through Savior God, then Jesus is our Savior - Revelation 1:18
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
Jesus as Messiah did Not arrive until the first century - Luke 3:15. When God resurrected Jesus - Acts of the Apostles 3:15; Galatians 1:1; 1 Thessalonians 1:10; Colossians 2:12 - then Jesus was given the power of the resurrection - Revelation 1:18 - so through Jesus we are ' saved ' from sin and death.
Please notice 2 Peter 1:1-2 because Jesus is mentioned there as our Savior. We are to gain knowledge ( education ) of both God 'AND' Jesus is stressed in verse 2.
So, through our Savior God then Jesus is our Savior.
God ressurected Jesus but Jesus also said "destroy this temple and in the days I will raise it up" he was talking about his body so Jesus rose that body, & two did raise that body only one did which was Jesus Christ who is God Almighty and the bible says all power is given to him..yea he gave it to himself he took the power! Thats bible Revelations 11:17
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
God ressurected Jesus but Jesus also said "destroy this temple and in the days I will raise it up" he was talking about his body so Jesus rose that body, & two did raise that body only one did which was Jesus Christ who is God Almighty and the bible says all power is given to him..yea he gave it to himself he took the power! Thats bible Revelations 11:17

Is that why Jesus still thinks he has a God over him according to Revelation 3:21 ?
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
Is that why Jesus still thinks he has a God over him according to Revelation 3:21 ?
Did Jesus not ascend to the Father but he is the Father, it speaks as a mystery if Jesus sat with his Father in the throne and Jesus is not the Father than that makes John a liar when he said he saw ONE on the throne! Is that the truth or was it Jesus with the Father which makes 2
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Did Jesus not ascend to the Father but he is the Father, it speaks as a mystery if Jesus sat with his Father in the throne and Jesus is not the Father than that makes John a liar when he said he saw ONE on the throne! Is that the truth or was it Jesus with the Father which makes 2

John 3:13; Acts of the Apostles 1:9

Please post verse about ONE on the throne - Revelation 3:21
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
John 3:13; Acts of the Apostles 1:9

Please post verse about ONE on the throne - Revelation 3:21
God was the one that ascended and he decended the bible says God was raised up into glory 1 Timothy 3:16 is that true? & revelation 4:2 John saw one on the throne!
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
God was the one that ascended and he decended the bible says God was raised up into glory 1 Timothy 3:16 is that true? & revelation 4:2 John saw one on the throne!
Bible says Jesus rose bible say God was recieved up into glory..now that makes Jesus God because only 1 rose
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
Many things that are not credible.
Sorry but that is not true.

It is heavily debated in academic circles however.
Well Jesus said if you believe not that i am he you will die in your sins..so dont believe that Jesus is the i am he than you better repent and belive the gospel & im not worried about academics im worried about what the Holy Scriptures say Jesus didnt say he that believeth on me as a history book says..he said he that believeth on me as the Scripture hath said
 
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