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Did Jesus Claim to be God?

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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Nietzsche said:
Yes, that's from the Bible. But it's also just from the Bible. You are saying the Bible is true because the Bible says it is true. Or at least, you're saying God wrote the Bible because it says God wrote it. There is no way to know if that's true. Remember, this is the same text where bats are classified as birds and whales as fish. They're not.
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Bats however are ' flying mammals ' so they were classed with the flying fowls (<- KJV wording) or flying creatures - Lev. 11:13
Remember the old Hebrew Scriptures were Not originally written in the translated KJV English. Bats were included as being a flying creature.
Whale too would be a KJV English word translation for sea creatures.
Even the BIG fish that swallowed Jonah is Not necessarily a whale but some sort of sea creature.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Isaiah Torres said:
Just one Jesus is the Father so he was talking about the same throne you cant make the scriptures contradict and thats what your doing Jesus is the Father so its his throne and when he say the Fathers throne its the same one because he is the everlasting Father Isaiah 9:6
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There is more than one throne mentioned at Revelation 3:21 _________

Jesus is addressed as Mighty God, but God is a title and Not the Tetragrammaton. Just as Father is a title and Not a proper name.
Even human judges were referred to as gods - Psalms 82:1-7; Exodus 4:16
Titles also did Not lead the Jews to believe or recognize that the coming Messiah would be God Himself.
Jesus was Not called Everlasting Father while on Earth. That is because Jesus would use the power of the resurrection - Revelation 1:18 - during his coming millennium-long day of governing over earth, when people like King David - Acts of the Apostles 2:34; Psalms 110:1-2 - will be resurrected on earth, and can be a ' prince ' on earth - Psalms 45:16
So, as the word ' father ' means life giver, and Jesus, by way of the resurrection, gives life to dead David, thus resurrected David will be Jesus' resurrected ' son ', thus Jesus will be David's Everlasting Father, or Life Giver, because God gave to Jesus the Resurrection's Power - Revelation 1:18
 
Isaiah Torres

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
URAVIP2ME said:
There is more than one throne mentioned at Revelation 3:21 _________

Jesus is addressed as Mighty God, but God is a title and Not the Tetragrammaton. Just as Father is a title and Not a proper name.
Even human judges were referred to as gods - Psalms 82:1-7; Exodus 4:16
Titles also did Not lead the Jews to believe or recognize that the coming Messiah would be God Himself.
Jesus was Not called Everlasting Father while on Earth. That is because Jesus would use the power of the resurrection - Revelation 1:18 - during his coming millennium-long day of governing over earth, when people like King David - Acts of the Apostles 2:34; Psalms 110:1-2 - will be resurrected on earth, and can be a ' prince ' on earth - Psalms 45:16
So, as the word ' father ' means life giver, and Jesus, by way of the resurrection, gives life to dead David, thus resurrected David will be Jesus' resurrected ' son ', thus Jesus will be David's Everlasting Father, or Life Giver, because God gave to Jesus the Resurrection's Power - Revelation 1:18
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So you got 2 Gods?
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
Isaiah Torres said:
Bible says are scripture are given by inspiration of God
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That would be another term for the conscious mind of the author. Inspiration means thinking about something in this context

Isaiah Torres said:
this is Gods word be careful
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be careful of what?, I'm not afraid of anyone's mythology.

Why demean a deity like that, the bible has mans handprint only on it ONLY, and has many errors both scientific and historical.

If I believed in a god, I would expect more then this from him.
 
Isaiah Torres

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
outhouse said:
No your not.
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Yes i am i seen people speak in other toungues as the Spirit give utterance with my own eyes i seen miracles with my own eyes i seen Gods hand plenty of times..dont tell me what i did and didnt see because i did and God is bearing me witness and knows im not lying
 
Isaiah Torres

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
outhouse said:
Easy trigger.

Its is a debate section where we criticize replies not the people themselves.



Yes I can. What is easily stated by you is refuted in the same way. Provide evidence or it did not happen.

Just because you believe it, does not make it credible or true.
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If you were there you would know..well maybe not because after all the miracles Jesus did people still didnt believe.. Mark 16:16
 
Eliab ben Benjamin

Eliab ben Benjamin

Active Member
Premium Member
Isaiah Torres said:
You just lied the bible says God was recieved up into glory 1 Timothy 3:16 kjv..is that true or did Paul an Apostle of Jesus Christ tell a lie?
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Saul of Tarsus, (Paul) was not an Apostle .... he came along some years later, and apparently
made up his own story of a visitation
 
Isaiah Torres

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
Eliab ben Benjamin said:
Saul of Tarsus, (Paul) was not an Apostle .... he came along some years later, and apparently
made up his own story of a visitation
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Thats a lie Paul was an Apostle and the bible says it and thats your opinion and mouth why would he make that up to get beat and cast into prison and treated so evil for somebody he made up he started out persecuting the Church than he got persecuted as part of the Church stop that foolish devilment talk
 
moorea944

moorea944

Well-Known Member
Isaiah Torres said:
You just lied the bible says God was recieved up into glory 1 Timothy 3:16 kjv..is that true or did Paul an Apostle of Jesus Christ tell a lie?
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Read it again. God was manifest in the flesh. Which is Jesus. Then it talks about Jesus. How can God receive Himself up into Glory? Think about it.....
 
moorea944

moorea944

Well-Known Member
Eliab ben Benjamin said:
Saul of Tarsus, (Paul) was not an Apostle .... he came along some years later, and apparently
made up his own story of a visitation
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Paul was personally chosen by the risen and glorified Christ to be His apostle to the Gentiles. He makes in clear in the book of Galatians that his special calling was "not from men nor through man" (Galatians 1:1), meaning no human or church group chose or 'ordained' Paul to be a minister or told him to preach to the Gentiles.

Paul's commission, which came directly from God, was known the day he was baptized (Acts 9:15-16). It did not take him long after his baptism to begin powerfully proclaiming that Jesus (who, only a short while before, he was persecuting - Acts 9:4) was the Son of God (see Acts 9:19 - 25).
 
Isaiah Torres

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
moorea944 said:
Read it again. God was manifest in the flesh. Which is Jesus. Then it talks about Jesus. How can God receive Himself up into Glory? Think about it.....
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The bible said God was recieved up into glory talking about that body, & that was Gods body Jesus is God two didnt rise up
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
rusra02 said:
IMO, Jesus never claimed to be God. To some who falsely claimed that Jesus was claiming to be God or a god, Jesus said; "do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?" (John 10:36)
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I believe your opinion must be based upon fantasy because the reality in the Bible is that He did.
 
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