Heathen Hammer
Nope, you're still wrong
Um, I did answer it. I have been answering it for many pages, scattered throughout the thread.Humorous note: you have yet to answer my question to you. In the midst of your balloon-juice here, you have failed to provide a reasonable, coherent, intelligent, and theologically-sound argument why Jesus did not have to die for our sins.
So, Mr. I'm-wonderful-because-I-have-a-"published"-"fallacy"-and-an-unpublished-book-and-get-off-on-blowing-my-own-horn, can you answer the question, or are you simply going to bore us with more of your same self-stroking?
the theologically sound argument was succinct: god already stated in the Hebrew scriptures that no-one needs to intercede between him and man for a man's sins.
he may repent of his sins to god, and forgiveness is his. There is no need to believe in Jesus as a savior or intercessor; nor was Jesus' "sacrifice" necessary.
[FONT=arial,helvetica][FONT=arial, helvetica][FONT=arial,helvetica][FONT=arial, helvetica]Repentance
If a person repents and confesses his sins and dies repentant he earns life in the world to come.f Repentance atones for all sins; even if a person is wicked all his life and repents at the end, his wickedness is all forgotten.g A person should always think of himself as about to die so that he will repent immediately.h If a person's sins are very great or very many so that he deserves to receive punishment, he may be prevented from repenting, as when G-d hardened Pharaoh's heart 9,i; therefore as long as a person has free choice he should strive to repent.j
The repentant sinner should not think that on account of his sins he is far beneath the righteous. Rather, he is beloved by G-d as though he had never sinned; moreover, his reward is great since he has tasted sin and overcome his inclinations and abandoned it.k Repentance brings one close to G-d, as it says "Return, O Israel, to Ha-Shem your G-d".10,l Israel will not be redeemed except through repentance, as it says "And when all of these things come upon you... you shall return to Ha-Shem your G-d... and Ha-Shem your G-d will return you from captivity...".11,m
When a person repents he is required to confess before G-d, as it says "If a man or woman commits any sin... they shall confess their sin that they did".l2 One who confesses must specify his sin and state that he regrets doing it and will never repeat it, as it says "Let the wicked man abandon his way [...and return to Ha-Shem]".13,n The Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) is a time for all to repent and confess, as it says "For on this day He will atone for you [to purify you from all your sins]".14,o
If a person violates a positive commandment and repents he is immediately forgiven. If he violates a negative commandment and repents, the repentance suspends his punishment and the Day of Atonement atones for it. But if his sin is one which carries the punishment of "cutting off" or the death penalty, repentance and the Day of Atonement only suspend his punishment and he does not have complete atonement until he has borne suffering; and if he desecrated the Name when he sinned, only his death gives him complete atonement.p For sins toward one's fellow-man one is never forgiven until he has compensated his fellow-man and appeased him.q[/FONT][/FONT]
http://www.torah.org/learning/halacha-overview/chapter5.html,
A rabbi's summation from Maimonides.
There. Theologically sound. In scripture. Merely a rewording of what I've already said, which had always been mindful of Hebrew truth, which of course, you denied being there.
As for the rest of your bitterness: you mad bro? Poor Robin needed to hear my bona fides, not you, since he needs to offer someone else's words; your assessment is of no consequence.
Since i answered your question, you are required to answer mine. Or, of course, you can wimp out.
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