Did you ever had NDE? Do you know anyone with NDE?

[Eliab ben Benjamin]

I survived death, whatever your opinion !

 

[Jonathan Ainsley Bain]

Death is death, no one ever survived it, many have gone close but never have they crossed the line.

I don't see how you can just decide what everyone has experienced, or not experienced.

In this so called near death all sorts of things are going on in your brain, just as it does in mine when having a psychosis experience. If you are a Christian your experience would be based on that, if you are a Hindu, the same, if there was something true after NDE, then all experiences would be the same.

I was a pagan at the time.
I had very bad experiences with Christianism as a youth.
I despised the Christian church as a result of that.

And yet, it was not Thor, or Poseidon, or Thoth or Brigid or Shiva that spoke to me.
All those archetypal personalities were far more important to me symbolically and as a consequence
of the literature I had filled my life with. I even recall once stomping on a Bible in front of a preacher.

Anyone who knew me at the time knew that I was openly Pagan/Pantheist.

And yet it was only the Christian spirits of Jesus and John who spoke to me.
On quite a few occasions. And I did not consider myself Christian even after the first vision.
Not even directly after the fourth time.

It was only after spending years thinking about it. Only after the visions did I start to read the Bible.
At that point, I had read the Bhagavad Gita more than twice. I had immersed myself in the ancient Greeks,
and considered myself to be culturally more Norse or Celtic than anything Biblical.

It still amazes me.
That's one reason why I can show it to be objective to other people.
Never mind the perfect truths of what they actually told me.

I still believe in reincarnation. And karma. Nowhere are these denied in the Bible.
If they are so wrong then J&J would surely have told me so.

 

[YmirGF]

Yep the pedantic view of those who tell us it was the dying or oxygen starved brain ...
When we who experience it know it was a real oob or
nDE ..

Oh, shush, you you. What would you know, eh?

 

[psychoslice]

I don't see how you can just decide what everyone has experienced, or not experienced.



I was a pagan at the time.
I had very bad experiences with Christianism as a youth.
I despised the Christian church as a result of that.

And yet, it was not Thor, or Poseidon, or Thoth or Brigid or Shiva that spoke to me.
All those archetypal personalities were far more important to me symbolically and as a consequence
of the literature I had filled my life with. I even recall once stomping on a Bible in front of a preacher.

Anyone who knew me at the time knew that I was openly Pagan/Pantheist.

And yet it was only the Christian spirits of Jesus and John who spoke to me.
On quite a few occasions. And I did not consider myself Christian even after the first vision.
Not even directly after the fourth time.

It was only after spending years thinking about it. Only after the visions did I start to read the Bible.
At that point, I had read the Bhagavad Gita more than twice. I had immersed myself in the ancient Greeks,
and considered myself to be culturally more Norse or Celtic than anything Biblical.

It still amazes me.
That's one reason why I can show it to be objective to other people.
Never mind the perfect truths of what they actually told me.

I still believe in reincarnation. And karma. Nowhere are these denied in the Bible.
If they are so wrong then J&J would surely have told me so.

Yes be happy with hat belief.

 

[Ana.J]

Death is death, no one ever survived it, many have gone close but never have they crossed the line. In this so called near death all sorts of things are going on in your brain, just as it does in mine when having a psychosis experience. If you are a Christian your experience would be based on that, if you are a Hindu, the same, if there was something true after NDE, then all experiences would be the same.

What about clinical death when your body dies for a few minutes? Do you cal it death?

 

[Ana.J]

Hi Folks...

Ana; Hmm - I amaze you..??...is that a good thing or a bad thing though..??...lol....Hope its in a good way - hope it gets you (all) thinking

My typing - I must apologise for - sometimes - that gateway I speak of - must kind of get stuck wide open and it just comes flooding through - the amount of typos first time round is what is really amazing..lol...but I do go back and correct most of them..lol....but hey - bare with me - Im a typical guy - lazy if I can get away with it....lol...

In a good thing of course. I have not noticed any typos Your replies are soo big and informative. How long does it take to type one?

 

[psychoslice]

What about clinical death when your body dies for a few minutes? Do you cal it death?

No, death is death, if you were truly dead you wouldn't come back.