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Difference between Hinduism and Sanatan Dharma?

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
.. and also i can claim that due to the unquestioned acceptance of a Aryan peoples/Race/language assumption the great Indian patriot Tilak has also distorted the meaning of the Vedas to reach his desired outcome.
It is not unquestioned. Tilak has proposed a theory. And the main reasons for the theory are: 1. Mention of seven suns in the beginning, the number increasing subsequently to eight, ten and finally to twelve. 2. The mention of a dawn which lasted 30 days. 3. Existence of separate rituals for a two-month night (Ati-Ratra, Ratri-kratu, Asvamedha). 4. Mention of priests who completed their sacrificial session in nine or ten months (Navagwahas and Dashagwahas). If you have any other explanation for these, I would like to know that.
 

Satyamavejayanti

Well-Known Member
It is not unquestioned. Tilak has proposed a theory. And the main reasons for the theory are: 1. Mention of seven suns in the beginning, the number increasing subsequently to eight, ten and finally to twelve. 2. The mention of a dawn which lasted 30 days. 3. Existence of separate rituals for a two-month night (Ati-Ratra, Ratri-kratu, Asvamedha). 4. Mention of priests who completed their sacrificial session in nine or ten months (Navagwahas and Dashagwahas). If you have any other explanation for these, I would like to know that.

Namaste,

Did he question the validity of the entire Aryan myth (as a whole) or just the dates and places ascribed to the Mythical peoples existence by the propagators of the Myth?

Anyways, the Mantras themselves are interpreted differently by different people and sakhas/Darshans, and whose not to say that maybe the 12 suns are the 12 months, the 30 days of dawn all have a dawn in them, rituals performed at night for two months are not far fetched even today, taking months to complete yajnas is possible even today, the geography and times makes no difference.

But im not going to get into this debate again with you, i recently come across a book which was mentioned in one of Rajiv Malhotras talks but have not read it fully yet, i have started the section by B.B Lal which seams interesting.

THE INDO-ARYAN CONTROVERSY Evidence and inference in Indian history Edited by Edwin F. Bryant and Laurie L. Patton.

I recommend it to anyone interested.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Satyam, kindly read Lokmanya Tilak's book first before you discuss his theory. It is available free to read or down load at https://archive.org/details/TheArcticHomeInTheVedas and makes an interesting reading. The dawns were continuous, followed one after the other, and the sun was not visible during these 30-day dawns. During the dawns the priests were to conduct special rituals to help the sun to appear on the horizon, and the dawns were warned not to linger too long and let the Sun appear. And when the sun appeared, it seemed to abandon its chariot right in the middle of the sky and stay put there. Such phenomena do not happen anywhere other than in sub-Arctic regions. During the period of the long night, it was the Asvamedha Yagna conducted by Atharvans and Angirasas, without which Aryans thought the sun would never rise.

I will surely read the article that you mention. Kindly give me a lead/link to it.
 

Satyamavejayanti

Well-Known Member
"Aupmanyav, post: 4502959, member: 11823"]Satyam, kindly read Lokmanya Tilak's book first before you discuss his theory.

Namaste,

Not to be rude Aup Ji, but this is like asking me to read a 1800s book justifying Race Science. I have no intention to read a subject which i don't consider worthy of reading. Sorry but i wish not to discuss this any further.

No hard feeling

Dhayavad
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Not to be rude Aup Ji, but this is like asking me to read a 1800s book justifying Race Science.
Satyam, how could you even think that I could be rude to you? The book is interesting (you may not be correct that it may not interest you). It was a simple request. It is not about 'race', but about the history of a people. Aryans never had a problem about race. Did not Sage Parashara cohabit with Satyawati to beget Sage VedaVyasa? And then the Kuru King Shantanu married her.
 
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