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McBell

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sorry to the people actually reading my posts and watching my videos. So far I have gotten annoying and inhospitable questions without any intelligent disputes. The arguments are of elementary school level. Their are some claiming that they know paleontology but they keep on asking me questions asking me to show links though if they know paleontology they wouldn't be asking such simple questions that the should already know. I came here to post a topic hoping some people would at least be into paleontology and know paleontology that they wouldn't be asking me questions or asking me links.

Some even posted links and think a link is suppose to somehow prove me wrong just because they found a random link that agree's with what their opinions or beliefs. People who only add links as arguments- indicates that they barely know the subject or else they would explain exactly what they are trying to express or explain in full clear detail . The internet is full of biased websites that are based more on opinion and not facts.

Some guy even asked me if I knew Geology though we were talking about paleontology. I'm assuming they didn't even know what paleontology was before I wrote my thread. Trust me the people trying to dispute me are only basing their disputes based on the post i wrote but barely know on the subject of dinosaur fossils and paleontology but they quickly wanted to pretend they knew what paleontology was but instead of coming up with a dispute they wanted to ask me questions that a person with enough common sense could figure out.

I want to assure people out their THAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS BASED ON MULTIPLE RESOURCES that I had to read thru to verify by comparing multiple sources. I did not get my info from one link and than claim that OH IT MUST BE RIGHT.

Here is my advise to people wanting to dispute me IF YOU DON'T KNOW PALEONTOLOGY, arguing me isn't going to help you. Don't pretend to be a paleontologist expert or a geology expert but than ask me questions to answers that you should already know. I also advise the so called geology expert pretends on here to realize geology is not paleontology so don't come trying to tell me you are in geology or that a certain geologists said this.

Also this thread is about Dinosaur fossils and not plant or shell fossils. The thread is about paleontology and paleontology alone.

To conclude I will not be responding to any foolhardy questions or disputes on here but if someone has a real question than I will respond because I do not feel like wasting my time as I did not come here to try to convince those who want to be stubborn.

Anyway with this Said. I know you have some questions that need to be answered and I will answer them soon.
You sure do shovel the **** deep at an astounding rate.

I want to thank you though.
You have shown you are not interested in anything other than finding choir members.
Since I am completely unable to lower my standards and IQ enough to be a choir member, I shall let you be.

Have a nice day.
 

McBell

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I know I posted this video before but it shows how to create a sandstone/limestone fossil.

the problem we have is that paleontologists up until now is that they did not know that rock sediment fossils could be created using wet cement and sand/lime/gravel or other various rock sediments that are tiny pieces or come up in powder grinded up.

All paleontologist know is that fossil is a rock sediment made up of sand and minerals because they lack the understanding of how a sandstone fossil or statue can be created or what a sandstone fossil is or what is composed of. The minerals found in a dinosaur fossil is the same minerals found in cement. Some cement mixtures come with various different minerals. The DINOSAUR FOSSILS ARE 100% made out of sand and cement. Most people had thought that sandstone and stone type statues could only be sculpted and had no idea they could be wet cast.

So yes you can take a bag of sand and mix it with wet cement and you will get a legit dinosaur fossil that you could even sell to a museum. When a fossil is taken to a museum the directors of the museum do not test the dinosaur fossils at all. All that the paleontologist scam artist does is say hey, I'm a paleontologist i found this fossil in this location and as long as the fossil feels like its made of a rock sediment it is accepted. Of course other paleontologist test the fossils and study them on their own time but they do not know that the fossils are fakes. The dinosaur fossils that were discovered are not allowed to be cut up and tested.

If anyone doubts me they can test it out for themselves but you have my guarantee that you will easily create a legit dinosaur fossil.





repeating the same nonsense over and over does not help your "argument".
It merely reveals desperation.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
You sure do shovel the **** deep at an astounding rate.

I want to thank you though.
You have shown you are not interested in anything other than finding choir members.
Since I am completely unable to lower my standards and IQ enough to be a choir member, I shall let you be.

Have a nice day.

A brilliant use of words.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I suppose researchers managed to BURY these faked fossils under limestone/sandstone
deposits many feet under the soil just to get recognition??????
Ancient Aliens is just a t-v show ya know.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Some fundamentalist religions come up with all sorts or unscientific rebuttal for
scientific finding of dino and other prehistoric fossils.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I was associated with a fundamentalist religious group for a while that absolutely
refuted evidence of fossil remains proven to be many eons old.
This group went from the extreme view the evidence was faked to the evidence
is in extreme error.
Ah, well........................so it goes.
No one can argue in the scientific sense with religious dogma.
Articles of faith can never be proven nor dis-proven.
 
A year back I was trying to figure out the real size of each dinosaur since I had read that most of the dinosaur skeletons on display were replicas made out of plaster or metal. I had thought that the real fossils were actual bone but than when I did a research I found out that dinosaur fossils were not bones but rock sediments like sandstone, limestone, etc. Their are various rock sediments but the main ones that dinosaur and prehistoric animal fossils are made out of are sandstone which is sand and cement mixed. Rock sediments are tiny powder pieces of rock or sand and this case its SAND.
My suspicion grew. How could a skeleton system made out of real bone turn into rock. The claim is just outrageous so I did a research. I researched what fossils where, what a rock sediment was, when and who discovered the dinosaurs by date and what where the first discovered dinosaurs. What I found was surprising.
To make the explanation short. I found out that CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND masonries had been producing statues and ornaments made out of sand since ancient history going back to the time of egypt. All they were doing was mixing sand and cement to produce a sandstone object. So what the paleontologist scam artists did was to borrow these techniques to produce a sandstone fossil. Further explanation below.

Anyway here is long explanation.
dinosaurs, cavemen and prehistoric animals never existed. Fossils are rock sediment impressions made out of rock sediments like sandstone and not bone. You can mix wet cement and sand to produce a sandstone fossil and can even use lime powder to produce a limestone fossil. You would pour the wet cement into a mold of a dinosaur skeleton you created and once its dry you would have a legit dinosaur fossil. You can watch my vids to how create some.
Background Story on this. The first dinosaur fossils were created by paleontologist scam artists. The first paleo scam artists that started from 1856-1890 the scamming is O.C mash, joseph leidy and edward cope who were close friends and who created most of the dinos in the jurrassic and early cretaceous period which they sold for millions to museums and got millions from the government. Their family members and employees like C.H. Sternberg would continue their scamming of creating dinosaur fossils of the late cretaceous period and selling them. C.H. Sternberg would be the fourth youngest member that would continue the fossil creating and scamming into the 1900's along with his family members after the 3 died.

More EXTRA Info
Dinosaur Fossils cannot be carbon tested but instead the terrain on which they are found is tested by sedimentary layers testing. A rocky terrain layer has several layers and the deeper the layer/lower the layer the older its considered but not all terrains have the same amount of rock sedimentary layers.
So the scam artists, O.C marsh, joseph leidy and edward cope created the fossils and than picked a location in isolated locations in colorado and Wyoming than spilled some pool of watery lime/sand mixed with cement on the location and than buried the fossils in the spilled pool of sand/lime mixed cement. Once it was dry they pretended to be digging in that location of course they had armed men preventing anyone from spying on what they were doing. Colorado and Wyoming is the location where the the 3 would find all of their dino fossils whereas by concidence Their friend C.H sternberg would move to canada and by considence find all the fossil he found of late cretacous period in canada. Bruan Brown would Join C.H sternberg. From Joseph Liedy, O.C marsh, edward cope and C.H sternberg the newer generations of paleontologist scam artists would emerge and learn from them and continue their scamming till the present time.

The government never questioned or tested the fossils because the put the trust on 3 paleontologists who were the culprits in the scamming in the first place.
Before 1856 dinosaurs were not accepted by the public as real. Some people had claimed to find just a tooth, or a shoulder fossil of a large lizard but they were not able to convince the people so the 3 paleo scam artists created a full skeleton of a fake lizard which they called a dinosaurs

Okay LET ME make this more clearer. Before 1856 DINOSAURS DID NOT EXIST AND NO ONE EVEN NEW WHAT THE TERM DINOSAURS. You must REALIZE DINOSAUR FOSSILS WERE NEVER BEEN FOUND BEFORE 1856 that is was Jospeh LIEDY and W.P. Foulke that would create the first dinosaur fossil. W.P. Foulke worked for Jospeh Liedy. Jospeh Liedy was starter of the SCAMMING AND WOULD BECOME THE LEADER in the scamming.
Before 1856 the only people that had claimed to find GIANT LIZARD bone fragments was Gildeon Mantell and Richard OWENs who worked together in trying to convince people in ENGLAND that they had found a sandstone fossil tooth and shoulder bone of a UNKOWN GIANT LIZARD around 1822. The reasons Gidleon Mantell created the fossils was because he opposed Charles Darwin theory of evolution. Charles darwin 1809-1882 had become popular and lived in England during the time Gildeon mantell 1790-Died 1852 (aged 62) was alive. Richard Owens would backstave Gidleon Mantell and separate. Both were unable to convince England people that Giant Lizards had existed and IT WOULDn't BE UNTIL Joseph Liedy that RICHARD owens ideas would be accepted but Gideon Mantell died by that time, suicide. Joseph Liedy would borrow Gildeon technique and during this time when Gildeon was alive England had become the center of sandstone statue production.

what is a fossil


Paleontologist even know how to create replicas using molds.

Thank you for reading. You can visit my youtube page for more videos if you are curious more.

Joseph Liedy, O.C marsh and Edward Cope would work together to create the dinosaur fossils of the jurassic and early cretacous peroid in the so called first dinosaur rush.

C.H Sternberg, his sons, Barnum Brown would create the dinosaur fossils of the late cretacous peroid in canada in the second dinosaur rush discovery after working with LIEDY, marsh and cope. .The first and second dinosaur rush were the only peroids where most of the famous dinosaurs were be discovered but they weren't discovered but created.
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Why are you working backwards from your conclusion?
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
I was associated with a fundamentalist religious group for a while that absolutely
refuted evidence of fossil remains proven to be many eons old.
You too? I did also. I was a member of a fundamentalist group for over 10 years. They had whole series of books trying to disprove evolution. I read one or two. Funny thing is that the exact same arguments are used today. Nothing has changed. Anti-evolution science hasn't gone a single step forward in research or insight, while science behind evolution has gone lightyears.

This group went from the extreme view the evidence was faked to the evidence
is in extreme error.
Ah, well........................so it goes.
No one can argue in the scientific sense with religious dogma.
Articles of faith can never be proven nor dis-proven.
True.

And I learned that change has to come from oneself, from inside. Doesn't matter how much evidence or argument you throw at someone, he/she maintains the same belief.
 
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superdestructionyou

i will win YOU WILL LOSE
@Wu Wei
you keep on spamming me with this. I suggest you grow up and when you are ready to debate with adults to not shy way from expressing yourself. On the side note, dinosaurs are fake as ICE CUBE. I'm not into rap but I have seen the documentaries on T.V of how those rappers like to pretend they were gang members and thugs but are only loud mouths who would run away from a simple fight. They also steal others people's music and combine it and try to claim they created the music. You are not only a fan of fake dinosaurs but fake musicians.
 
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Valjean

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I still don't see what you're trying to show us with that vid. No-one's contesting the fact that realistic looking replicas of things can't be molded, cast or chiseled from stone. That doesn't affect the fact that these can easily be distinguished from the real thing on close examination.
 

superdestructionyou

i will win YOU WILL LOSE
@Purusha
they have figured out they were tricked. They are in denial but once is lie is exposed its hard to swallow it up and pretend its still real. They are upset about what I've revealed. You can have my guarantee that what i'm saying is the truth with all honesty in mind. Without the dinosaur or prehistoric fossils evolution has no backbone to stand on. The so called prehistoric apes fossils exist in the prehistoric fossils so now that the majority of people know the fossils are fake and can be created by anyone, evolution has no nothing to rely on.
None of the so called paleontologists or paleontologist/evolution supporters wanted to question the discoveries instead they came up with far fetched excuses to try to support their claims of evolution while doing biased one sided researches that left out many factors that would prove their researches and claims wrong.
a lot of people put trust in paleontologists beleiving anything they claimed. They put their trust in the science community thinking that the science community wouldn't be so corrupt, thinking they were honest and sincere people. But normal people don't know the difference between a paleontologist or a chemist and think all scientist are a like and work together.
 
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ADigitalArtist

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Once again wet cast won't capture internal structures, just external details. but you can break open a fossil bone and see internal structures such as marrow cavities and air sacs. Nor does your videos explain how we find remnants of proteins and other structures which are microscopic and have nothing to do with sandstone, concrete or any other casting material.

As for your remark about chemists, yes, chemists do in fact work with paleontologist all the time. Chemistry labs are used to clean fossils with solvents, preform radiometric dating, make determinations about core samples from fossils and copperlites, find organic chemistry and analyze it if present. I've been to a chem lab where chemists work on fossils. Clearly you haven't.

Repeating yourself without actually rebutting these arguments reveals your argument for what it is: a lot of willful ignorance on your part.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
sorry everyone but this user who is a digital artist doesn't know anything about paleotologists though he/she tries to pretend he/she does.
ADigitalArtist is correct though.

All she is saying is assumptions and nothing more.

"Fossil bone, on the other hand, will probably preserve the internal bone structure. In a fossil bone you will be able to see the different canals and webbed structure of the bone, sure signs that the object was of biological origin."
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...-the-difference-62895060/#dErgkKYA4xl2e6oG.99

She is taking wild guesses in the dark.
Nope. Read my quote above from Smithsonian.

The bone has a sponge like texture inside. Remnants from its bone structure.
 
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